California Nurses Association and SEIU Neutrality Agreement ruled Illegal by the NLRB

[Sherwood]

As long as the nurses who don't want to support CNA financially, forego ALL OF THE BENEFITS that CNA has obtained, INCLUDING the pay raises, benefits, and staffing ratios, etc, they don't have to pay dues. Reality is that all of the nurses are covered by the contract, and receive ALL of the benefits that the union has obtained. When laws get passed that allow the union to deny non union or non-dues paying nurses from receiving these benefits, or these nurse opt out of receiving these beneftits, then you can whine all you would like about unions and dues. As it stands now you are suffering from a terminal case of delusions of grandeur, and self deception. You cannot, by yourself, improve, or change the way hospitals treat their nurses.

Haven''t you heard the term, "strength in numbers"? There is a reason for that. Unions have earned ALL OF THE WORKPLACE SAFETY NETS, THAT ARE IN PLACE TODAY. Big business did not, voluntary give workers that 8 hour day, 40 hour work week, overtime, benefits, etc because of their generous natures. They did it because of the efforts of YOUR GRANDFATHERS' hard work and determination. These are efforts that are now being thrown to the wind, with a record low union membership in this country. I hope that the AFL-CIO is successful in organizing groups that have traditionally not been unionized. It will take that strength in numbers to get back the rights of the workers in ths country. If you can't see that you are blind.

Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN

Spokane, Washington

The CNA or any union for that matter cannot take the credit for everything that we have accomplished. People stand up everyday for themselves and their coworkers and they do it without a union. I do believe that there is strength in numbers and I also know that there are far more non-union workers than unionized workers. We have the numbers and the unions do not.

All the things that you give 100% credit to the CNA for were made possible because of the contributions of the non-union nurses as well. We write our political representatives voicing our opinions on issues that concern us. We vote. We participate on committees and we teach. We take action when we are wronged and we give credit when credit is due. I am not blind, I am one of the many who actually see the light. I am one of the many who know that we make a difference in this world and our voices are heard. I do not do this alone, WE do this TOGETHER!

We do this without the corruption and infighting of the unions. We do this while respecting each others opinions and we do this without forcing each other to pay to support political causes and actions we do not believe in. Much can be accomplished quietly and behind the scenes with the right words and actions. We don't need to grandstand and posture for attention. Whats right is right, nothing can change that.

Sherwood, R.N., CCRN

[alohadeb]

Will someone please tell me what is going on with the CNA in hawaii?

I was approached last week (not so politely) about joining..I thought HNA was the union for us in Hawaii.

I haven't joined either yet, but would like to know what is what and who is who..

I am a bit baffled as to why CNA would be in Hawaii???

any help/info/advice is greatly appreciated. Mahalo!

[Sherwood]

The CNA has formed a new name and call themselves the NNOC or National Nurses Organizing Committee. They are traveling about the country raiding other unions or attempting to unionize non-union nurses. They were recently successful in raiding a union in Illinois.

It seems they are failing to keep enough support in California and need to find other other ways to make money to finance their brand of politics. They are spending a ton of their members money trying to discredit our Governor.

check out http://www.stopunions.com for more insight into the CNA

[Nancy2]

I understan they are also affiliating with the AFLCIO. So much for the "professioal association". They are also dues paying members of the Labor Party http://www.thelaborparty.org the CNA pays $1000 dollars a year of dues money to belong. Do you agree with these politics?

[Sheri257]

I understan they are also affiliating with the AFLCIO. So much for the "professioal association". They are also dues paying members of the Labor Party http://www.thelaborparty.org the CNA pays $1000 dollars a year of dues money to belong. Do you agree with these politics?

As was previously pointed out, if you disagree with their politics you can have your union dues donated to a charity of your choice.

It seems they are failing to keep enough support in California and need to find other other ways to make money to finance their brand of politics. They are spending a ton of their members money trying to discredit our Governor.

Failing to keep enough support in California? CNA just won a decertification election in San Diego where union opponents failed to throw them out of one facility. And they've defeated the governor in all of his attempts to roll back portions of the ratio law.

The only defeats CNA has suffered is from the Bush controlled National Labor Relations Board which ... surprize ... is anti-union. That doesn't mean CNA is losing any ground in California.

Schwarzenegger's approval rating is in the low '30s so ... if the governor is discredited, certainly he deserves some of the blame. And if the voters happen to agree with the unions which, obviously some of them do with the low approval rating, that doesn't indicate a lack of support but, rather, a position of strength.

[NRSKarenRN, BSN, RN]

Will someone please tell me what is going on with the CNA in hawaii?

See previous thread: CNA raiding Hawaii's nursing union

Might want to update.

Closing this thread now as strayed off original topic.

Please feel free to start new ones on any activism topic.