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Ruby Vee has 40 years experience as a BSN and specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.

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What I question is not the reality of bullying, but just exactly who the bully is, here.

Someone who is constantly looking for bullies will find them. Sometimes they find them in the mirror.

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What I question is not the reality of bullying, but just exactly who the bully is, here.

You asked me, the OP , to ignore you, yet you keep posting. You asked me to ignore you because I called your friend Ruby on her name calling.

Just stop it.

I'm OK. But many others are not. Bullying is not something to ridicule

If you have nothing constructive to say, except personal attacks (or defending personal attacks) please stay off this topic.

Those of us who are or have been at the receiving end do not appreciate your callousness.

Again, have a great day and bye.

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Someone who is constantly looking for bullies will find them. Sometimes they find them in the mirror.

Yes , the mirror. Please use it, before you call other AllNurses posters names, as you have called me and many many others. Or imply that we are lying in our OPs only because we are new here. I won't take bullying anymore, wether in real life or online.

You're welcome.

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Ruby Vee has 40 years experience as a BSN and specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.

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Yes , the mirror. Please use it, before you call other AllNurses posters names, as you have called me and many many others. Or imply that we are lying in our OPs only because we are new here. I won't take bullying anymore, wether in real life or online.

You're welcome.

I thought you were ignoring me.

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Everyone knows how hard nursing school is. I'm sure that it's amplified when it's being taught in a language other than your primary language. Yes. She could have tried to arrange one on one time with her instructors, but that still doesn't give anyone the right to give her grief because she wasn't comprehending.

Of course she has "the right" to complain that the OP is monopolizing the class with constant questions. We are a free society which values the right to speak our mind. And the OP had the right to tell her what she thinks of that person's complaints.

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Shortcake_BSn has 1 years experience and specializes in Emergency Room, Critical care.

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Of course she has "the right" to complain that the OP is monopolizing the class with constant questions. We are a free society which values the right to speak our mind. And the OP had the right to tell her what she thinks of that person's complaints.

Yes. She has the right to complain. Stating that "you dislike someone" isn't complaining about their actions. It's a direct attack against that person, which I believe fell under another person's definition of what bullying is...

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heron has 40 years experience as a ASN, RN and specializes in Hospice.

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You asked me, the OP , to ignore you, yet you keep posting. You asked me to ignore you because I called your friend Ruby on her name calling.

Just stop it.

I'm OK. But many others are not. Bullying is not something to ridicule, ffs!

If you have nothing constructive to say, except personal attacks (or defending personal attacks) please stay off this topic.

Those of us who are or have been at the receiving end do not appreciate your callousness.

Again, have a great day and bye.

What you described in the OP was bad behavior but, until you provide more context - including your own behavior towards the "bully", I'm not seeing the incident as bullying.

You have demonstrated in this thread that your first response to anything other than total agreement is ridicule, sarcasm and yet another pity party. But, of course, since you are the one doing it, it's not bullying because of the context of Ruby's other statements.

You're accusing me and Ruby of "name-calling" without actually quoting the names we are supposedly calling you. In effect, you are trying to bully us into pretending that what you're doing isn't emotional blackmail.

In short, given the behavior you've demonstrated in this thread, it's clear that bullying is actually OK as long as you're the one doing the bullying.

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Yes. She has the right to complain. Stating that "you dislike someone" isn't complaining about their actions. It's a direct attack against that person, which I believe fell under another person's definition of what bullying is...

She also has "the right" to tell someone she dislikes her. She cannot threaten to physically harm her, but expressing dislike for someone? Of course she (and we) can do that. If a fellow student was a racist or misogynist, I would reserve my right to tell him or her that I find them to be despicable if I so chose. I personally wouldn't tell someone I didn't like them because they are annoying as hell, but that's a CHOICE I make because of my values and personality, not because I have "no right."

The OP has the same right to call this person out on her own bad behavior in harsh terms as well, if she chooses. Had she stood up for herself, it's likely the mean girl would have backed down. Lately it seems to be in vogue to try to shut down speech rather than addressing its content with our own dialogue. We really shouldn't be so quick to bar speech; that can come back to bite us down the line when someone decides we have "no right" to express ourselves. With speech comes consequences, however; that's a fortunate thing, and it would serve the OP well to learn how to deal with difficult people like this rather than backing down and repressing her feelings of offense.

JMO.

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She also has "the right" to tell someone she dislikes her. She cannot threaten to physically harm her, but expressing dislike for someone? Of course she (and we) can do that. If a fellow student was a racist or misogynist, I would reserve my right to tell him or her that I find them to be despicable if I so chose. I personally wouldn't tell someone I didn't like them because they are annoying as hell, but that's a CHOICE I make because of my values and personality, not because I have "no right."

The OP has the same right to call this person out on her own bad behavior in harsh terms as well, if she chooses. Had she stood up for herself, it's likely the mean girl would have backed down. Lately it seems to be in vogue to try to shut down speech rather than addressing its content with our own dialogue. We really shouldn't be so quick to bar speech; that can come back to bite us down the line when someone decides we have "no right" to express ourselves. With speech comes consequences, however; that's a fortunate thing, and it would serve the OP well to learn how to deal with difficult people like this rather than backing down and repressing her feelings of offense.

JMO.

I actually bought have learned from that, and I'm taking action. I won't tolerate bull ever again, whether in is school/work or online field.

Read my previous posts. I won't be stepped on again.

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What you described in the OP was bad behavior but, until you provide more context - including your own behavior towards the "bully", I'm not seeing the incident as bullying.

You have demonstrated in this thread that your first response to anything other than total agreement is ridicule, sarcasm and yet another pity party. But, of course, since you are the one doing it, it's not bullying because of the context of Ruby's other statements.

You're accusing me and Ruby of "name-calling" without actually quoting the names we are supposedly calling you. In effect, you are trying to bully us into pretending that what you're doing isn't emotional blackmail.

In short, given the behavior you've demonstrated in this thread, it's clear that bullying is actually OK as long as you're the one doing the bullying.

You just asked me to ignore you, yet you keep replying. Oh my.

My response to bullying was to walk away in shock. Not ridicule. I have grown since then, and I won't take being beaten down, only because psychopaths need their kick.

You asked me to ignore you. Why do you keep replying to me??

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heron has 40 years experience as a ASN, RN and specializes in Hospice.

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You just asked me to ignore you, yet you keep replying. Oh my.

My response to bullying was to walk away in shock. Not ridicule. I have grown since then, and I won't take being beaten down, only because psychopaths need their kick.

You asked me to ignore you. Why do you keep replying to me??

Never said I would be ignoring you. I'm still looking for some kind of logic to your thinking. I don't find dissenting opinions particularly upsetting, but apparently you do, so ignoring me seemed to be one way you could avoid distress.

Am am still waiting to read a rationale for the same behavior being "bullying" when someone else does it but ok when it's you. For instance, apparently context matters when it justifies sneering at Ruby but doesn't count when someone else says something that hurts your feelings.

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