80% BSN staffing by 2020

[jadelpn]

This has been on the forefront of every conversation regarding nursing I have been a party to as of late. 80% of BSN prepared nurses for acute care by 2020. Is this just being kicked around as an ideal, or did this mandate pass? Not sure if this is national or state.

A number of hospitals will only hire BSN's. That is certainly their right, however, to use the 80% by 2020 mandate as a reason to not hire less than a BSN is a bit odd to me.

My understanding is that this mandate states that currently employed nurses are grandfathered. They also have a 10 year period of time to obtain a BSN. From what I have read about this, it is a state mandate that has yet to pass in most states. But the information is vauge.

Or is administration just throwing it out there in attempts to go for Magnet status???

Curious on if you have heard this in your area?

[DoGoodThenGo]

Please, if you want people to respect the BSN, add something valuable to it beyond the fluffy, self-deceiving, delusional ego stroking it tries to pass off as something valuable. There is a reason why nurses don't get more than a token raise at the most for having a BSN over an ADN. I am embarrassed by the classes they currently pass off as "higher education". We need to demand more from our education system. And before someone chimes in with "MY PROGRAM WAS AMAZING AND INTENSIVE", we all know that 98% of BSN programs are NOT built that way. If you can fix that issue, maybe I can convince myself to get behind the whole "BSN only" idea. As it is, I feel like I paid a lot of money to get a piece of paper that means nothing other than I can write really long papers and talk myself to sleep about nursing leadership and theory. And even that, I learned how to fill up space with long words and over-extended prose in high school.

Again it must be remembered that for the most part BSN programs were never founded to produce "bedside" nurses, hence the reason so many historically were heavy on theory and academics say when compared to the more widely found and attended diploma and later ADN programs.

ANA's white paper had BSN nurses doing the planning, evaluation, management and so forth of patient care; the actual implementation and the rest was carried out by "technical nurses" (ADN, diploma), LPNs and various UAPs.

It used to be said that when it came to post graduate orientation of new GNs, on average diploma grads needed the least seasoning whilst BSNs the most. ADN grads fell somewhere in the middle.

Since by and large the ANA proposal went no where hospitals were and still are slotting all graduates for bedside care. They've also informed local nursing programs either directly or otherwise to pull up their socks and produce grads capable of functioning at bedside or they run the risk of not being hired.

[PMFB-RN, RN]

Again it must be remembered that for the most part BSN programs were never founded to produce "bedside" nurses, hence the reason so many historically were heavy on theory and academics say when compared to the more widely found and attended diploma and later ADN programs.

*** I don't know what they used to be. But BSN grads now are not qualified to do anything but be bedside nurses. And they are not prepared very well for that either, although neither are their ADN peers.

ANA's white paper had BSN nurses doing the planning, evaluation, management and so forth of patient care; the actual implementation and the rest was carried out by "technical nurses" (ADN, diploma), LPNs and various UAPs.

*** Ya I have no use for the ANA or their White paper. It was a bad idea when it was put out and hasn't improved. IMO it demonstrates nursing low self esteem.

The idea of producing BSN grads who are incompetent bedside nurses to supervise nurses, who until shortly before were real RNs but had their title and roll yanked out from under them after meeting all the stated requirements to be RNs is absurd. It's difficult for me to even comprehend their thinking. It's like they were just looking to start a fight.

[jadelpn, LPN, EMT-B]

*** I don't know what they used to be. But BSN grads now are not qualified to do anything but be bedside nurses. And they are not prepared very well for that either, although neither are their ADN peers.

But, LPN's are....JUST sayin.....OOOOPS, story for another thread....

[sneeds]

I just still don't get the crap. When a nurse of any degree is in an environment, she/he will be taught... and pretty d*&^% quickly what he/she needs to know. So, like, how does academia and these immeasurable bodies of judgement (these credential and political groups) get the nerve to state what the knowledge of a nurse should be in any setting given the time and circumstances of any nurse? It's about experience in the field! It's all you have time for. Yea, I'm gonna think of the best way to place an IV or sequentials for an argumentative patient when 1 falls patient is ringing the bell, 1 other is pain meds, MD rounding, 2 calls from nuc or U/S and breakfast is late for room 5234 who happens to be a VIP. Yea, I'm gonna get right on that. Oh, an as I turn the corner, my ANM is reminding me that the family is 5227 has questions regarding the echo results and when they can leave. Why don't I have those yet? Yea, living the dream, baby. This goes down within a half hour's time or less. It's this SLAM that sux. I hate when I have a full day of it. Slam after slam... no water, no pee, no food. I love the pt's just give me less of them so I can serve them well. Then you can't blame me for patient satisfaction AND I can keep my electrolytes stable enough to function. And maybe I might stay in this crazy field.

[sneeds]

But yeah there are newbies just aching to take my place.

[ericab77]

I agree!!!!