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jwright343 · Aug 12, 2014

I'll go with that, however, wouldn't you expect that one would be an internal hire over a random new grad. I'm cross trained as an ER tech and RN. I already possess most of the required certs of an ER RN. I might possibly have a quicker learning curve due to my time in an ER. Just playing devil's advocate. Thanks again for your insight. Greatly appreciated.

klone, MSN, RN · Aug 12, 2014

All else being equal, sure. But maybe the new grad they hired also had tech experience. Maybe they also know a foreign language. Maybe they've worked for 10 years as an LPN. Maybe they attended the same alma mater as the hiring manager. Lots of reasons why they would pick someone else over you, unfortunately.

TU RN, DNP, CRNA · Aug 12, 2014

Hah it doesn't really change much with one year of experience either, sad to say :\

jwright343 · Aug 12, 2014

Touche. :) Well even after listening to everyone's insight tonight, my gut tells me this is intentional. Maybe not full out 'blackballed', but more of maybe the 'we'll make you mad so you quit' route. I won't lie, they're close to getting their wish. I will not stoop to their unethical levels. I'll probably just take the high road, quit, and move on. I've no time for the negative energy any longer.

caliotter3 · Aug 12, 2014

Some people get hired as internal hires and others do not. As long as you have worked in the institution, TPTB have had the opportunity to observe and evaluate you and decide that you do not meet whatever criteria they hold forth for the hire. If that is the case, you live with it or move on.

lub dub · Aug 12, 2014

I'll go with that, however, wouldn't you expect that one would be an internal hire over a random new grad. I'm cross trained as an ER tech and RN. I already possess most of the required certs of an ER RN. I might possibly have a quicker learning curve due to my time in an ER. Just playing devil's advocate. Thanks again for your insight. Greatly appreciated.

Now I am confused. If you are currently an ER tech, how can you be cross trained as an ER RN? Also, does your hospital hire new grads into the ER? Some hospitals require one year of med/surg experience before going to the ER, or critical care areas, regardless of the new grad's pre-license work experience. Being an ER tech does not equate to being an ER RN.

psu_213, BSN, RN · Aug 12, 2014

Being an ER tech does not equate to being an ER RN.

Our ED hired someone who had been a tech in the department…she had a spotless record…after a month or, both sides knew it wasn't working out and she was allowed the "dignity" of resigning rather than being fired. Point is, EDs don't hire very many new grads, and it is doubtful our ED will do that again soon considering how badly we were burned on the last one.

psu_213, BSN, RN · Aug 12, 2014

Touche. :) Well even after listening to everyone's insight tonight, my gut tells me this is intentional. Maybe not full out 'blackballed', but more of maybe the 'we'll make you mad so you quit' route. I won't lie, they're close to getting their wish. I will not stoop to their unethical levels. I'll probably just take the high road, quit, and move on. I've no time for the negative energy any longer.

Why do you think they are blackballing you? I know you said you have a good record--but why would ED management have the motivation to blackball you not only in the ED but in the entire hospital system? If your answer is "they have no reason to blackball me" then, in all likelihood, you are not being blackballed. JMHO

jwright343 · Aug 12, 2014

Psu_213

For the above mentioned reasons. I go on vacation assuming a job is in hand, HR says they're going to contact my boss, all of a sudden no job, no returned calls, nothing. That sounds sketchy at minmum. While I know most EDs don't hire new grads, but then why would they even interview me. I should clarify something further, I'm also a paramedic. So, in a way, I DO have critical care experience, just in an out of hospital way. I DO have acls, pals, phtls, etc. I'm a 'new grad' in nursing terms, however, I have over 10 years experience in fire/ems. I have that critical care experience. Experienced in pre-hospital emergency medicine, absolutely. Experienced as an employee in an ER, yes. Experience as an RN in an ER.... none.

jwright343 · Aug 12, 2014

@ lub dub

At my ER, the medics do pretty much whatever they want. Triage, lines, meds, ekgs, etc. We also do minimal charting. There are a few things that only the nurses do of course. I agree, an ER tech is not the same as an ER RN, I'm simply stating that what I do on a day to day basis is VERY similar to what RNs do. The biggest difference would be the charting. Again, this is why I feel the way I do. Why would someone from the outside be hired over an internal position. They can pay me less than the experienced one. I'm familiar with 'the system'. And again, I have experience, it's just not experience with an RN by the signature.

psu_213, BSN, RN · Aug 12, 2014

For the above mentioned reasons. I go on vacation assuming a job is in hand, HR says they're going to contact my boss, all of a sudden no job, no returned calls, nothing. That sounds sketchy at minmum.

Quite frankly, this sounds pretty common. This has happened to me. It stinks, but it is hardly proof that your are being blackballed. Not to mention, it still does not answer the question of why management is making the conscious choice to blackball you. You are offering what you feel is proof of your being blackballed. That still does nothing to explain why they are doing it.

jwright343 · Aug 12, 2014

If I knew I'd be addressing it, trust me. I'm guessing personal reasons or ego trips. I have my HR file. I had it printed yesterday. Nothing in it. But again, how am I to know or not know, that within HR, my name is flagged. Some people confuse my pessimism for realism.