BEWARE: Pace University

U.S.A. New York

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I am currently enrolled in the Pace University RN4 program. I have to say this is not a good school. The professors often avoid answering questions, do not give you any room to learn, and overall feels like they don't care whether you pass or fail.

Let me give you some examples of what I am talking about.

1. This was the first semester so we are learning patient assessment skills and everything. This girl in my class passes all but one skill, something simple in the frequency hearing test where she said "tell me when you stop feeling this" rather than "tell me when you stop HEARING this". OK, no problem she gets another chance to retake the practical. She corrects the problem and fails again. The instructor said she did another part of the exam wrong when she did everything exactly as she did the first time with the once correction that was brought to her attention. This girl tried everything but none of the professors would do anything about it and she was not allowed to move on.

2. I often have have questions that I think of when I am home studying or something and if I can't figure it out I will email a professor. I have only had 1 professor who has actually answered my questions via email. Every other professor either did not respond or told me to speak with someone else. THis really annoyed me when an email was sent about applying for a nursing internship and I asked a simple question about the internship (Whether one year of Nursing school was required when applying or the year was needed to be completed before the start of the internship, as it starts in the summer it is a reasonable question). I wrote to the woman who sent the email and she told me to contact someone else.

3. I just got an email today, less than 2 weeks before the start of Spring semester saying "All friday clinicals have been canceled. Sorry for the inconvenience." WHat the hell is that? No explanation at all, no comments on saying they will accomodate us. Simply "Sorry for the inconvenience". I don't know about anyone else, but I schedule my school around my other priorities, in this case work. I was glad there was a Friday section because the other sections interfere with my work schedule. Now they expect me to change everything at the last minute with no explanation or anything.

I have found out so far that at least 20 people have failed out during this first semester, which is probably like 15% of those enrolled. Thankfully I grasp information easily so I was able to make it on my own, but anyone who needs some extra help or needs an instructor to learn well will most likely not fit into this environment. I suggest anyone looking at Pace University seriously reconsider.

i dont know if the teachers are the same, i dont think they are but who knows. Our Fundamentals/Geriatrics teachers was not asked back because of the failure rate I assume. The teachers werent all awful or anything, just had a very difficult time getting them to respond to requests for assistance. Anyway, it doesnt matter our program was shut down after 1 semester so no one else will ever have to deal with these issues. But the 1 year CDP program in NYC is still going on. I suggest any future students talk to current students in that program at that campus.

Hey anyone know of another school offering accelerated weekend program similar to Pace?

You should double check, but I've heard that Pace did away with their evening and weekend program. There have been a number of posts on this website from people who attended the information session and they said that the evening program no longer exists...this wouldn't be surprising because 80% of their students failed out of that program this past semester.

Most schools that I've been looking at don't offer a part time version of the accelerated program, but have part-time versions of their traditional program.

Hi! I know LIU in Brooklyn has a part time program. I have heard mixed reviews of this program as well but don't really know much about it. But its worth a lot certainly!

Adelphi does as well, or used to a couple of years ago. Havent checked recently.

lienard school of nursing, at pace university, is a dangerous place. Somehow, i got through this twisted poorly run program. I have heard other nursing schools deliver a similarly poor product. I simply cannot believe this is so. Maybe there are nursing schools that are as expensive or as subpar academically but i do not know of any other program that is simultaneously pricey and subpar. This program is so devoid of the information needed to become a sound practitioner of nursing. The staff diminishes the confidence of the student body and/or boots them out not because the students are not talented. Rather, the competence of the faculty drags the nursing candidates into the gutter. In so many lectures, so many post-exam talks, we would all be so perplexed at why such irrelevant questions were asked, as well as why was the information never discussed in lectures or put on powerpoints. This happened constantly. To call this gaggle of women "faculty" insults the definition for the bulk of them aren't qualified to care for themselves, let alone students or heaven forbid, patients. It is inconceivable to think the majority of these people ever set foot in a patient's room.

it must be stated however, there are a few gems. Dedicated, intelligent people. Unfortunately this population is so tiny it is absolutely not worth the mental agony and ridiculous tuition to justify this wild ride to take the courses of the exceptional few.

the most important aspect of my post is: It nearly ruined my marriage. My world view, especially re: The field of nursing became so grim i thought i was going to break. After graduation, i would spontaneously cry when friends/family asked me about the experience. I still have such intensely bad dreams, very frequently, that when i awake i almost do not believe it isn't real. I still feel they will get to me somehow. I still have friends who are superlative students but because of incredibly unfair practices of the instructors have been kept back and are laying out tens of thousands of dollars as a result. In other words, they are still at this institution.

the program is disorganized, the majority of the teachers are angry, unfair, or both. I have several college degrees and have never experienced anything quite like this. If you are desperate and must go to this "fun house" you must have friends and/or family support. You are set up to fail, not to succeed.

with great sincerity,

sue

Gday,

Im reading this 2 years after it was originally written and wondering if that is still the case....I finally recently just passed my lpn license after a break and 5 times at trying over several years. I also have a bachelors degree in an unrelated topic however i was at a job fair today and it seems as if the pace double degree for people with a bachelors looks really good for me and i could actually do it. That is once the prereqs are done and doing the course over 2 years...at the end i will have a bsn and a masters in nursing....Is this school still just as bad as it was two years ago...Im a guy that needs a little help when it comes to explaining some things and have many questions usually. Are the professors better now?by the time i will take the course it will be probably fall 2012...should i even try?

By the way...its tuff to get an lpn job now...that is what made me look into further study...

If you do go there give us an update of any changes. I would also like to consider this school when applying for a program.

i haven't had any problems with the professors at pace so far. They are nice and willing to help you.

The instructors that you have now are not the same ones that we had. We were enrolled in a different nursing program than the programs that they currently offer; the program that we were in was cancelled after one semester and most of the instructors that we had were not asked to continue teaching at Pace in any capacity, so it clearly had some major issues. I'm glad that your experience with Pace has been a good one.

I graduated from Pace's CDP part time program recently. I had a great experience and highly recommend it. It is a challenging program, but if your a dedicated student you shouldn't have a problem with it.. I breezed through the NCLEX and I have a couple of job offers at the moment. I wouldn't go by the older posts. Like every school/program, there are challenging or even poor professors, but the good defiantly outweighed the poor.

Specializes in med surg home care PEDS.

I am impressed. Nevermind the debate about Pace. How did you get a few job offers. My classmates and i have beem looling for over one year. Its rpugh in the metro NY area

Specializes in med surg home care PEDS.

Sorry fir typos. Darn i phone keyboard

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