Being let go during orientation in ICU

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I am very sad and a little frustrated today because my manager just talked to me and wanted to let me go during orientation in ICU. I was lucky that I got an ICU job as a new nurse. I had clinical in ICU before so I feel I know basic critical care nursing, but I guess I am wrong.

1) It's not about the task, it's about communication

I am very focused on my task (meds), and I have hard time multitasking (listening to family, overhearing from doctors etc). It is even worse when nurses and doctors use abbreviations and medical jargon that I have never heard of!

For example, when I report lactic acid is high to a doctor, he just said, "Do a D-dimer". I have no idea what a D-dimer is and I don't know how to look it up when he expects me to put his verbal order in.

I have a preceptor, but a lot of time I feel people just talk to her instead of me. So I missed out a lot of information.

Talking to doctors on the phone is also frustrating. I am new to the job and also new to the hospital. When I receive a phone call, they just say things quickly, I did not even get who they are. There is one time I was told by my preceptor to call a doctor, let him know that he's the new consulting physician. So I did look up his name and phone and paged him. I told him specifically that the patient's name, room number that is newly assigned to him. He said, "I don't know what you are talking about. That doesn't help." and hang up on me. Later I found out he's always like that. He doesn't really like when attending assigned him to be consulting physician when he feels there is not much he can do about.

2) I feel I need to be perfect, not making any mistakes.

The manager said he let me go because he doesn't want to compromise patient safety. God knows I am always check check check. I am so fearful of making med errors. But I feel a lot of minor mistakes (not med mistakes) are due to my lack of experience. I was never told that or my preceptor showed me briefly before I can try on my own and master my skills.

For example, drawing blood from lines. My preceptor showed me two different ways doing that. I was a little bit mixed up from drawing blood from peripheral line and arterial line. So after flushing the picc line, I did not attach the syringe to the line pot, I attached the vacutem to the pot, but of course it doesn't fit. So I was there thinking, my preceptor was yelling "What are you doing? I taught you this before." After the second time, I remembered and able to master the skill.

But this becomes a reason for my manager to let me go.

It's very frustrating because I feel I know what to do, but very slow. In ICU, people changes orders all the time. I do not have much time sitting on computer, waiting to see there are any new orders. When I am busy with things, and come back to my preceptor, she will say, "ok, there is a new order." I feel bad that I cannot multitask or keep up with the ICU world.

Finally, I start to pay close attention to new active orders, like monitoring facebook newfeeds. I saw there is a new order of "Mg draw". so I grab all the supplies and went to my preceptor and told her what I am going to do. She said, it's an add-on. so just call the lab and let them know. They could use the blood sample the night shift has drew" I feel so dumb that I did not see the "add-on" words.

3) I feel so lonely and depressed.

I am nice person in general, and trying to "obey the order" get things done quickly. But when patients sense my "not outspoken", they take advantage of it. They would be very rude to me, but very nice to my preceptor, even though I am the one doing the care, she is chatting with them. I feel so little.

I feel no one to talk to, because no one would understand this. I even feel a lot of nursing falls into "gray area" that if an experienced nurse made all these minor errors, they would just shrug it off. For example, I failed to insert an IV on a patient. I feel so bad that I lack of the skill. My preceptor tried, but she failed too. But she's able to get over it quickly, like it's nothing to do with her competency. I don't know how to manage the stress and self-doubt.

Specializes in Nsg. Ed, Infusion, Pediatrics, LTC.

IMHO, the ICU is not the place for a new grad. Nurses that work in the ICU generally have a wealth of clinical experience and tightly honed instincts from which to draw upon. Please do not be too hard on yourself, try Med- Surg for a bit and then try again. 😀

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Updates:

My manager asked me to either resign or terminate. So I chose to resign. Clear my locker and return the ID badge. He told me that there is no positions on other floor, so no internal transfer for me. The whole time he's very emotionless, kind of cruel. He was not like that when he first hired me. He seemed easy to approach and nice. And now he's treating me like watching a criminal. It's very difficult, because I feel I am also emotionally invested on the hospital. When they let you go, you are totally irrelevant. It made me think deep about career and workplace. Hospital and nurse are just business employment relationship. When you are no longer useful, they don't need to be nice to you. It's a hard lesson for my first big girl job.

Sorry they did not decide to move you within the organization. Perhaps it is best to make a clean break. Now give yourself another couple of days to let this bother you, then make a plan, and move forward. You are not the first person to be in this predicament. You will win in the end as long as you don't give up now. Best wishes.

Specializes in Family Nurse Practitioner.
When they let you go, you are totally irrelevant. It made me think deep about career and workplace. Hospital and nurse are just business employment relationship. When you are no longer useful, they don't need to be nice to you. It's a hard lesson for my first big girl job.

You are so right. It is a lesson to be learned by all. Start sending out those apps and let us know what comes your way. You probably still qualify for new grad residency programs at some hospitals. How long did you work in ICU?

Specializes in Pediatrics, Emergency, Trauma.
Sorry they did not decide to move you within the organization. Perhaps it is best to make a clean break. Now give yourself another couple of days to let this bother you, then make a plan, and move forward. You are not the first person to be in this predicament. You will win in the end as long as you don't give up now. Best wishes.

THIS.

I was deemed "not a good fit" at my first job-it was a PICU position; in hindsight, I didn't see myself in the PICU as the first position in my career, but my personality of not being a quitter, and presenting an opportunity, I took it, under the impression that there would be plenty of support, a transition to practice type setting; what I got was a "sink or swim" setting, which I did well in the first half; however, the stress triggered anxiety and the issues-I have PTSD, and I actually revealed it, thinking that there would be some form of support; in hindsight, I NEVER reveal such knowledge and should have decided to find another position on my own terms and got my anxiety under control-which I did; I was treated in a clinical cold way; come to think of it, I expected it; this unit has people lining up to take my place; this place also has a high turnover, so on the next one is their motto; so I didn't take it personal-it's an employers market in my nurse-surplus area.

I went into Sub-Acute as a supervisor to learn how to talk to physicians directly, and to brush up on those basic nursing skills; sharpen and broaden my nursing assessment (I was a former LPN for 7 years before being a new grad RN), and sharpen my assessment where there were no monitors attached; I was very good at knowing when to send pts out when they were going south; I then moved into a Sub-Acute Pediatric position a year after I started the previous job, and did so well due to those assessment skills, knowledge of high acuity pts such as pts on vents, pts with central lines, complex wounds, etc, and how I handled pressure that I became a lead nurse. These current skills and my transition to being a beginner RN has been completed without completing a nurse residency, and that is OK; I have allowed myself to move forward and take each experience to help build on my skills to transcend any setting; as I did for my LPN; I had to start at square one to build up my practice and my confidence; I also worked on combating my PTSD.

I am proud to say TWO years removed from that first job, I will be in another high acuity place-a Pediatric Level I Trauma ER...a far cry from being "not a good fit" to someone who has leadership skills and confidence in speaking to providers with unusual personalities, disgruntled pts and families, and dealing with the human beings that are my peers. I also can afford to do something I wasn't able to do before-self study, which is KEY to success in any specialty or beginning of a new position; I want to have some form of comfort of how to asses, evaluate, and collaborate, even though I will have a preceptor, then a mentor once I pass orientation, I still want to be responsible to my practice on having some knowledge behind the dynamics of emergency nursing.

You will dust yourself off and have

your own success; remember, you

have to power to build your practice and become the nurse you want to be.

Best wishes

The thing worried about me is "do not rehire" label. I was voluntary reassigned. They say I am not a good fit for ICU. But overall I am a good person with good working ethics. But just today the manager's attitude really makes me worried. He is very cruel. I am worried if he put a "do not rehire" on my file which may jeopardize my future nursing career.

I don't know. I know he's mad because they have invested on me and it did not work out. I really tried my best and very respectful to everyone at work. I hope this would not prohibit me getting a new nursing job somewhere else. I am worried.

Specializes in Psychiatry, Oncology.

Hyed:

I am sorry about your situation.

I believe your manager's behavior might be due to the fact that a) letting people go is never easy and that might be his way of dealing with that stress and b) it is always a tricky situation and HR might require him to act a certain way - removed, matter of factly. Don't take it personally.

I think, and maybe someone who works in HR can confirm or deny this, you have the right to ask HR whether they are putting a "do not rehire" on your file. I don't think you not meeting their expectations in orientation should be grounds for a "do not rehire" decision. Try reaching out to the HR person who was handling this situation.

Be strong! Good luck!

Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.
Updates:

My manager asked me to either resign or terminate. So I chose to resign... He told me that there is no positions on other floor, so no internal transfer for me. The whole time he's very emotionless, kind of cruel. He was not like that when he first hired me. He seemed easy to approach and nice. And now he's treating me like watching a criminal...

He is very cruel. I am worried if he put a "do not rehire" on my file which may jeopardize my future nursing career.

I don't know. I know he's mad because they have invested on me and it did not work out.

I didn't see anything in your posts that suggest your manager is being cruel. He's your boss, not your friend. He has a difficult job and having to request an employee resign is a very unpleasant part of it. Nobody likes to have those difficult conversations and we all have our own coping mechanisms for managing them. Just because he didn't gush sympathy for you doesn't make him cruel. As for treating you "like a watched criminal", I'm not sure what you mean by that. But it's not unheard of that a disgruntled employee takes out his or her anger and disappointment on the workplace by vandalizing or sabotaging equipment, stealing property or engaging in violence. So a little scrutiny isn't misplaced. To perceive that he's "mad" because of the investment made in you is probably an overstatement. Any person who washes out during orientation is a disappointment because of that investment, but few managers are "mad" when it happens. Better to find out early on that someone isn't a good fit than to get to the end of orientation and then see it. You're certainly not the first person this has happened to, and you're not going to be the last. It happens all the time. You're making this a lot more personal than it likely is.

When they let you go, you are totally irrelevant. It made me think deep about career and workplace. Hospital and nurse are just business employment relationship. When you are no longer useful, they don't need to be nice to you.

Indeed, once you're no longer an employee you aren't relevant to a manager or HR. Why would you be? As I said, this man was your manager, not your friend. He appears to have behaved professionally, he never made it personal and the decision was made with patient safety in mind. When someone is hired into an ICU with no experience, some accommodations will be made. But eventually those accommodations have to stop, both in the interest of the unit and the patients. The expectation is that the new staff nurse will learn the job at a reasonably predictable pace so that competence is gained, or be let go.

Your posts suggest that you look for a place to put blame when things don't go well. You've remarked at least twice that English isn't your first language, yet you managed to attend and graduate from a US nursing school. Communication is a two-way street. If you don't understand what someone says to you, it's up to you to clarify, especially when your misunderstanding could harm someone else. Nurses must be accountable for their actions. Failing to accept responsibility for omissions or errors made is a serious concern. Human beings make mistakes, but we are expected to learn from them and not repeat them. An ICU is a difficult environment for seasoned nurses, and new grads entering the workplace in them must have strong organizational, prioritization and time management skills, in addition to a broad knowledge base and excellent communication. Those who don't have all of these are not going to last.

Specializes in Critical Care, Postpartum.

Big hugs for you. That position was certainly a learning experience and you can grow and become successful from it.

I started in critical care as a new grad. It wasn't ICU, but stepdown. What made a difference was the floor was new grad friendly. I also carried around a notebook and jotted down everything that was new/unfamiliar to me, i.e. drawing a D-dimer. I never knew what that was either but I looked it up. I familiarized myself with common diagnoses I would often see and studied the treatments, labs, and meds the MDs ordered that eventually I could round with the MD and make recommendations based on my assessment. That impressed them that they began trusting my judgement and it built rapport.

Medical jargon will come with time, but I had no problem jotting down unfamiliar abbreviations in my trusty little notebook for reference. Also I didn't hesitate to ask my preceptor.

When it comes to talking with the MDs, your confidence will improve the more you speak with them. The first time I had to call a doctor, I literally had to "reheorifice" my lines. My preceptor initially looked at me funny but she understood and was right there with me when I nervously made the call. The ice was broken at that moment and felt comfortable and confident in speaking with them more and more. Speaking with MDs with strong foreign accents can be extremely difficult, but you ask them to spell their names and read back those orders to make sure you have the right orders.

Critical care isn't for everyone whether you're experienced or not. It wasn't for me despite the praise I got from my manager and the amount of cards and flowers I received from my patients. Part of the success is the friendly environment. I was comfortable to ask any question to my preceptor and other nurses.

The advice I gave you applies anywhere you go in nursing. The other part of your success hinges on your willingness to put in the work outside of the job to learn and get better. If that means watching YouTube videos to learn how to do something, do it. If that means opening up your Medsurg book to read up on D-dimers to understand what it is and why it's order, you do it so you'll know for next time. All of this will make you a better, smarter nurse.

Keep your head up and move forward. Good luck.

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Thank you everyone for the input. I think I gain a lot from the orientation. It's just the first time happening to me. I will keep working hard.

Specializes in Critical Care; Recovery.

Had a similar experience on med-surg with 5-6 patients. I think the best thing you can do is try to find the answer yourself, but then ask as many questions as you need to until you are sure of what you are doing. I was an RN for 2 years before I transferred to ICU and there was still a learning curve. I even received some not so constructive criticism from one of my preceptors. I can tell you that even from a 2 year experienced nurse's prospective, there is still a huge learning curve in the icu. Some doctors are jerks by the way and you just have to learn who they are by experience and do the best you can to be prepared before you call them. Just ask questions whenever you have the slightest doubt about what you are doing. Don't try to prove that you already know something when you don't, because that's when you get into trouble and they begin to see you as unsafe. Also, don't be too hard on yourself. As you gain experience, you will see that even experienced nurses make mistakes and/or have to ask questions. If a nurse is experienced, it is very likely that they have made a few errors (or many) in their career (whether they admit it or not). Patients in the ICU have complex health problems and often multiple comorbidities. I wouldn't expect a new grad to understand that to a great extent. What I would expect is you to ask for help as many times as you need it until you are SURE of what you are doing. Lastly, ask for another chance with a new preceptor.

Specializes in Critical Care; Recovery.

Clarification: I was never let go, I got a second chance with a new preceptor, and that helped tremendously. However, that was in med-surg, not ICU.

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