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In light of recent discussions around here regarding privacy, I don't think I can stress enough to keep identifying information (especially here on allnurses) to a minimum!!!
I recently discovered and figured out one of the members on here that I know in real life based on info she gave out on her facebook and info she gave out on here. (I was able to put two and two together) I have not mentioned it to any of my friends, I have not mentioned it to her. (Nor will I ever)
Yikes!
Trust no one! It's a dog eat dog world, you never know who is secretly jealous or grudging you, they can easily use info against you.
".....anything you say can and will be held against you..."
Be careful guys!
But they couldn't have a "hunch" it was you, they would have to be able to prove it was you. Short sending a subpoena to AN Administration, there'd be no way to do that.Truthfully though, that's not the kind of thing I would ever stand in the middle of the cafeteria and speak about, or post on a public board.
Yes - if I fought it. There are plenty of people without the money or time to do so, or who are in situations in which even if they win, they lose. If you sue an employer, good luck being employed again in that field. The safest course is just to be very cautious and avoid revealing much identifying information.
Yes - if I fought it. There are plenty of people without the money or time to do so, or who are in situations in which even if they win, they lose. If you sue an employer, good luck being employed again in that field. The safest course is just to be very cautious and avoid revealing much identifying information.
That's my point though, you wouldn't have to sue them, they would have to sue you. They would have to initiate legal action in order to get a subpoena to find out your screen name, and in order to do that, they would have to prove to a judge that some kind of harm had been done to the organization. A lot of "what if's" have to occur before this would happen.
HR departments tend to be very conservative and very careful. If they can't prove something happened, the likelihood of them pursuing it is low. Now, they might try to scare an employee....but all other things being equal, there's not enough reason to pursue legal action to find out if you really are your screen name.
admins have changed identity of several persons after being recoginzed. anything posted online in a publically viewed site like an is viewable doing an internet search. that's why our terms of service has a warning in bold print:
the basic terms of service
many of you struggled through the registration process before being given a membership here. we apologize for that, but i think that after you have spent some time with us, you will understand why we are very particular about user names and passwords. this website hosts the most personable nursing discussion board on the internet. you'll find yourself discussing current daily topics on a more personal level and discover that everyone treats each other with respect on this discussion forum.
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That's my point though, you wouldn't have to sue them, they would have to sue you. They would have to initiate legal action in order to get a subpoena to find out your screen name, and in order to do that, they would have to prove to a judge that some kind of harm had been done to the organization. A lot of "what if's" have to occur before this would happen.HR departments tend to be very conservative and very careful. If they can't prove something happened, the likelihood of them pursuing it is low. Now, they might try to scare an employee....but all other things being equal, there's not enough reason to pursue legal action to find out if you really are your screen name.
The employer could just fire me and deal with the consequences if I tried to get my job back. It's happened before, it'll happen again. Given that I've had that sort of thing happen to me once already (not for an online comment issue, just in general), I'm unlikely to take that sort of risk, nor would I counsel anyone else to do so. Whether an employer can legally do something doesn't seem to matter sometimes.
I live in a Right To Work state and here, you can be fired for anything at all (as long as it isn't the usual discriminatory practices). The hospital in our county exercises this right regularly. If they suspected an employee posted something on this or any other forum or if they were even told something to the effect, they would be fired. I know a woman who was fired because someone told the charge nurse she didn't wash her hands. No investigation, no questions asked, they just fired her. Another woman was fired because someone said she said something. Same thing, no investigation, no anything.
The employer could just fire me and deal with the consequences if I tried to get my job back. It's happened before, it'll happen again. Given that I've had that sort of thing happen to me once already (not for an online comment issue, just in general), I'm unlikely to take that sort of risk, nor would I counsel anyone else to do so. Whether an employer can legally do something doesn't seem to matter sometimes.
You got that absolutely right!
I live in a Right To Work state and here, you can be fired for anything at all (as long as it isn't the usual discriminatory practices). The hospital in our county exercises this right regularly. If they suspected an employee posted something on this or any other forum or if they were even told something to the effect, they would be fired. I know a woman who was fired because someone told the charge nurse she didn't wash her hands. No investigation, no questions asked, they just fired her. Another woman was fired because someone said she said something. Same thing, no investigation, no anything.
Even in a right to work state, and even when there are lots of nurses looking for work....it costs money to hire a new employee. What I had said is "all other things being equal," if they want you gone, they want you gone.....doesn't matter what is posted where (hence the hand-washing example). But, it's unlikely that a suspicion that an employee might have posted something autonomously on a bulletin board is going to be the primary reason that a job is lost. to many unknowns there.
We all get to make a choice though, I choose to not live in fear.
Anything you do on your employers network...unless heavily encrypted...is subject to scrutiny. Read your email at work? Your boss may be reading it too. Even encrypted stuff can be read...given enough time.
While what you say is completely true, as someone who used to run enterprise-wide networks and e-mail systems......unless they're specifically looking for something (ie there's been a problem in the past and they're told to flag your account) or you're going to sites that are against the technology policy, the IT department is far to busy keeping up with their e-mail to read yours.
CuriousMe
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But they couldn't have a "hunch" it was you, they would have to be able to prove it was you. Short sending a subpoena to AN Administration, there'd be no way to do that.
Truthfully though, that's not the kind of thing I would ever stand in the middle of the cafeteria and speak about, or post on a public board.