Bad situation

[NativeNurseBre]

I have an issue and I am in need of feedback on how to handle it in a constructive, professional way. I am a six-year RN, with a bachelors degree. I have worked in the hospital atmosphere in cardio, special procedures, have been a Summer camp nurse, wellness nurse, and an RN supervisor in home care, which I left to accept a position in a dementia/Alzheimer's independent living home. There are no skilled nursing task, just med pass, keep the residence safe, and offer guidance and compassion......easy for me because that's my forte. From day one of my start date things were a hot mess. The nurse manager that hired me was leaving the facility .........she hired me on as a staff nurse and the staff nurse I was replacing was going to become nurse manager. This new nurse manager was to train me. From day one of my training she has tried to sabotage me, first, by not giving me the proper training; 4 hours, that's hardly training. She has verbalized many times that she regrets giving up her job (that I now have) and accepting the position of the nurse manager. I took this job because it's a Monday-Thursday from 6 AM to 2 PM..I am ready for a more relaxed job with decent hours because I am 52 years old and will be retiring in 10 years. I forgot to mention that this nurse mgr is a 2 yr nurse and is a new grad of 6 mos. yesterday the administrator called me and asked me if I would be interested in this nurses position, as the nurse mgr, she said because I have the degree and experience for it and because this nurse has a nasty disposition and the new administrator that is coming in next week is not going to like her......... oh and btw she would like her position that I now have back. I declined the position because I don't want to work five days a week from 8 to 5 with a ton of responsibility plus weekend call .......I don't care how much more money it is. I had that position at my previous employment and even took a $4 an hour cut in pay to take this job. To me it's not about the $ but peace of mind and low stress. So i just know this new nurse, who is now nurse mgr is going to make my life a living hell ......she's already tried to point out every mistake and has tried to get me fired and I have only been there one week. She desperately wants her old position back. I'm not just gonna sit back and let this happen especially from a novice nurse. How can I handle this in professional manner? I'm new so I don't want to rock the boat but I am not going to walk away jobless at the age of 52....especially after have given up my previous job making more money.

[Penelope_Pitstop, BSN, RN]

I don't think I like this facility very much.

The nurse manager has been a nurse for SIX MONTHS?

Your orientation was FOUR HOURS ONLY?

And there's a new administrator coming? Why can't this place keep staff?

[SaltineQueen]

How is an associates nurse in a management position - never mind the fact that she's inly 6 months in? ADN/ASN programs don't have any management courses. She's in over her head & she knows it. I would just flat out tell your administrator that you fear retaliation & see what they say. Keep records of all your interactions with her. Lots of work on your part, but I'm guessing she won't be there long.

[VANurse2010]

How is an associates nurse in a management position - never mind the fact that she's inly 6 months in? ADN/ASN programs don't have any management courses. She's in over her head & she knows it. I would just flat out tell your administrator that you fear retaliation & see what they say. Keep records of all your interactions with her. Lots of work on your part, but I'm guessing she won't be there long.

That's actually not true - the part about management courses. It depends on the program

[roser13, ASN, RN]

How is an associates nurse in a management position - never mind the fact that she's inly 6 months in? ADN/ASN programs don't have any management courses. She's in over her head & she knows it. I would just flat out tell your administrator that you fear retaliation & see what they say. Keep records of all your interactions with her. Lots of work on your part, but I'm guessing she won't be there long.

Three/six of our nursing managers are ASN. It's called experience.

[Not_A_Hat_Person, RN]

How is an associates nurse in a management position - never mind the fact that she's inly 6 months in?

Maybe she has LPN experience. Maybe it was the only job she could find. In some parts of the country hospitals will not hire nurses without a BSN.

[dishes, BSN, RN]

Just continue to graciously decline the managment role and work hard in your current position. The nurse manager may be gone soon, if she shows her nasty disposition to the new administrator.

[CrunchRN, ADN, RN]

Stand your ground graciously.

[TheCommuter, BSN, RN]

How is an associates nurse in a management position

In the area where I live, many associate degree nurses serve as directors of nursing, unit managers, and assistant directors of nursing services.

In addition, many LPNs/LVNs serve as assistant DONs, directors of wellness, staff development coordinators, and unit managers in the post-acute setting.

[NativeNurseBre]

I found out she was at a hospital, one of our biggest and finest, on the ICUNero, she was let go. So how can she juggle this if she cannot stick it out there? The hospital gives you six weeks of training; she never made it out. I was in the same hospital as a new nurse on the cardiac specialty unit 2 yrs and then special precedures 2 yrs. and the Admin that is standing in for the new one is who offered me RN mgr simply because she said the new Adimin is not going to care for her attitude.

[NativeNurseBre]

Believe me I have my doubt and my watchful eye is open! And this is just half of the story of what transpired since I accepted this job....sigh

[NativeNurseBre]

Three/six of our nursing managers are ASN. It's called experience.

I dont don't feel six mos renders exp, unless you're in the counties where the movie "Deliverance" took place. She has only been at this facility 3 mos.