Published Mar 3, 2015
Leegc
10 Posts
Hello, I am new on allnurses. Are there any school nurses having difficulties with students having resistance to their neb treatments at school? I had a scary situation yesterday. A mother to a kindergarten student sent her child in to school, still wheezing! The teacher immediately sent the child to the Nurse's office. I started the neb treatment, checked pulse ox, and monitored vital signs. After the physician designated time, I gave him a second treatment. The student was still wheezing. I immediately called the mother and told her that I would probably need to call 911. The mother said that she would be at the school soon. The students VS were stable but I was afraid of rapid deterioration. When the mother arrived, I told her to call 911 or take the student immediately to the hospital ER. The report that I received later from the teacher, was the student was admitted to the hospital and overnight for observation. This is the second student or experience that I had with resistance to the nebulizer medication. Does anyone have a protocol or additional treatments in place or standing order for this resistance. Epi Pen , oxygen. I followed the student's family doctor's orders but this does not seem to be enough. Any comments welcome. Thank you!
abbyzabby
17 Posts
Call the primary care doctor that gave you the orders and express your concerns just as you did here.
SnowyJ, RN
844 Posts
As school nurse, we are limited in our scope of practice. You did the right thing by doing a full assessment, administering the neb and using your judgement. Do not feel you have to wait for a parent if a child is deteriorating. Better safe than sorry. You will know if they are working hard to breathe, and the neb isn't helping much. Once we have done our best, there comes a time to take the care to the next level. (911/EMS.) I know it's scary, I've had to call. But esp with children, their airway can constrict so quickly. Don't worry about making the wrong call.
Thank you. This is a great site to receive support from other school nurses. Sometimes you have that "alone" feeling. Would you believe in the past a mother would not supply an inhaler for a student diagnosed with Asthma, after I called her many times and sent a note home. I ended up calling 911 when no one would respond by telephone from that family. The parents were very irate about me calling 911 and the student being taken to the emergency room. I know that I made the right decision , the student was getting worse. Sometimes a thankless job. Thanks all
It can feel very isolating. This is the most autonomy I have ever had in a job. That can have its benefits, but sometimes it's nice to have someone to bounce things off of. I agree, This forum is great.
rollernurse365
41 Posts
You did the right thing. Those little ones can turn on you very fast. Trust your gut. It's usually right.
BostonFNP, APRN
2 Articles; 5,582 Posts
Remember that there is a two phase response during an exacerbation: bronchoconstriction followed by inflammation.
The nebs will help with the early phase (bronchoconstriction) but the more dangerous late phase inflammation does not respond as well to nebulizer/bronchodilator.
Hospital and steroids is the right call.
Are these students on meds appropriate for moderate persistent asthma or are they just on albuterol?
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Thank you for your response. One student on Dulera, Singulair, Ventolin inhaler ,and neb treatments prescribed on his treatment plan. The physician specialist has changed his treatment plan several times. I have never seen a student so resistant- was just on steroid treatment. The other student just on inhalers and neb treatments. I suggested the mother see a specialist, as the doctor since hospitalization has not changed the treatment plan, so we are back to the same treatment. Thanks again for the information
Wave Watcher
751 Posts
I wonder if this kid is on a daily maintenance inhaler at home?
Good job handling the situation. I deal the same way...inhaler tx or neb tx.... x 2 if needed, call parents if still wheezing or low o2, or call 911 if child seems to be struggling I expect them to decline quickly.
The student is on a daily maintenance inhaler. Just as you described, this is all that I can do. Many moons ago, I worked in the ER and there was a sense of security that there were other staff and needed equipment was readily available- but would never go back to those hospital days! Thanks for your response.
I'm with you! I worked the floors and I will take my asthmatics here at school over a hospital any day! Love my job and kiddos!