Anyone made to actually work two more weeks when resigning during orientation?

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I'm getting ready to resign and will give the standard two week notice but just wondered how much of a chance I had of them making me actually work those two weeks since I'm still in orientation. I know it really woudn't make sense to me but maybe they would have a reason. I just wondered how quickly they released you once you resign. Also, I want to resign on Friday. Do I show up for work as usual, clock in, change into scrubs, then find the manager? Do I just walk in and hand it to her first thing without doing all the above? Should I work all day then find her? Should I find her Thurs afternoon at the end of the shift and tell her? I just don't know what the proper way to handle this is. Which way would make the most sense? Also what if she's not there? We don't have a second in charge-would I just go to Human Resources? Sometimes she's just out for the day with no notice. Thanks for any help.

Oh, please. Unethical and immoral? Really? Anyone who intends to quit any type of job weighs their own personal needs to decide on the day to submit a resignation, new grad on orientation or not. I would question the person who doesn't think about those things!

Agree x 1,000,000. It makes sense to consider all implications of resigning before doing so, and there's nothing unethical or immoral about that.

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Agree x 1,000,000. It makes sense to consider all implications of resigning before doing so, and there's nothing unethical or immoral about that.

"Considering the implications" is clealy not the part anyone has a problem with. Of course you consider.

My hospital put a lot of resources toward my orientation. I greatly appreciate their investment and the opportunity. If I knew that I was taking my employer's investement with ZERO intention of holding up my end of the bargain by working for them, I would be acting unethically.

There is nothing wrong with resigning during orientation when your situation changes, but delaying resigning simply to squeeze more money out of your employer is definitely not ethical.

Rationalize it all you want.

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"Considering the implications" is clealy not the part anyone has a problem with. Of course you consider.

My hospital put a lot of resources toward my orientation. I greatly appreciate their investment and the opportunity. If I knew that I was taking my employer's investement with ZERO intention of holding up my end of the bargain by working for them, I would be acting unethically.

There is nothing wrong with resigning during orientation when your situation changes, but delaying resigning simply to squeeze more money out of your employer is definitely not ethical.

Rationalize it all you want.

What happens to your insurance IS one of the implications to consider. I don't need to "rationalize" this, because I truly do not believe considering how a decision on when to leave a job will affect my finances is unethical.

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To the OP, I'm glad it worked out for you.

Anyone who intends to quit any type of job weighs their own personal needs to decide on the day to submit a resignation, new grad on orientation or not. I would question the person who doesn't think about those things!

Insurance coverage often expires on the last day of the month that they leave. On more than one occasion I've asked someone who plans to leave near the end of the month if they'd like to stay a week or so longer so they don't endup getting dropped a few days after they leave

oft-times they never even thought about it before this

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Communication is Key!

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What happens to your insurance IS one of the implications to consider. I don't need to "rationalize" this, because I truly do not believe considering how a decision on when to leave a job will affect my finances is unethical.
If you look back at the OP's previous posts she's had one foot out the door for some time.

She's going back to her old job knowing that it has no benefits, and has been planning to do so for some time. Milking this employer for every penny on her way out the door *is* unethical.

Tell her she'll be eligible for rehire is blowing sunshine. Sure she'll be *eligible* for rehire down the road if she decides to reapply but that doesn't mean a manager won't look at the fact she previously bailed, 5 months into orientation, and choose not to hire her.

This is just one more reason employers don't feel any sort of loyalty to their employees anymore.

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i'd like to think i'm a pretty good employee. i'm reliable, don't take too many sick days, and i try my best to meet expectations. however, after having worked for 25 years, i've learned a thing or two about workplace politics. take care of yourself first. in the end, the employer is going to do the same....each and every time, where it suits them. there is no loyalty anymore. if another opportunity presents itself, take it.

what she did absolutely is unethical, immoral and could constitute as fraud. there is no issue quitting from orientation but the fact that you knowingly held off quitting for your/families personal benefit is immoral. she and the hospital were under an agreement for services- they will pay to put her through orientation and she intern work for them- it's essentially boils down to "pay or quit". it's like telling someone a friend that you need to borrow $20 and tell them you'll pay them back but have no intention to. it's deceitful.

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could constitute as fraud.

wow, we've moved on from immoral and unethical to illegal? these high horses just keep getting taller and taller.

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Give me a break with the unethical/ immoral talk. She is leaving for another position, and at least she isn't staying for the three month period. Too many people on their soapbox in this thread, IMO. No real harm done.

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What happens to your insurance IS one of the implications to consider. I don't need to "rationalize" this, because I truly do not believe considering how a decision on when to leave a job will affect my finances is unethical.

I cannot tell if you are being purposefully evasive or not. Just to be clear, if someone is working as a regular employee and is making a decision about when to put in their two weeks' notice, your statement above applies.

A resource-intensive RN orientation is a different story.

The employer is providing the insurance as part of the employee's compensation. I understand that it is very tempting to accept compensation while not holding up your end of the implied bargain. Yes, witholding information for a few weeks in order to get unwarranted compensation is a situation many people would love to be in.

That being said, taking compensation with no intention of providing the work you are being compensated for is objectively unethical. And there is no doubt that the 'work' a preceptee is delivering is that of a staff nurse.

I see no reason why anyone should expect an employer to put significant resources toward training someone who has no intention of using that training.

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I cannot tell if you are being purposefully evasive or not. Just to be clear, if someone is working as a regular employee and is making a decision about when to put in their two weeks' notice, your statement above applies.

A resource-intensive RN orientation is a different story.

The employer is providing the insurance as part of the employee's compensation. I understand that it is very tempting to accept compensation while not holding up your end of the implied bargain. Yes, witholding information for a few weeks in order to get unwarranted compensation is a situation many people would love to be in.

That being said, taking compensation with no intention of providing the work you are being compensated for is objectively unethical. And there is no doubt that the 'work' a preceptee is delivering is that of a staff nurse.

I see no reason why anyone should expect an employer to put significant resources toward training someone who has no intention of using that training.

I think we need to agree to disagree at this point. Orientation or not, you have to do what is best for you. I do not believe choosing the timing of the notice you give is unethical. I don't think that makes me "purposefully evasive", whatever that means, but I do think it means we have differing views of what exactly we owe an employer.

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Specializes in geriatrics.

It's not as though the OP is expecting them to pay her benefits after she has resigned. So what if she delays giving resignation by a day or two? She is putting in her services, even if still orienting. And since when are most employers ethical? Short staffing, forced overtime, guilt trips to pick up shifts?

Everyone looks out for number 1, in some way....whether you want to admit that or not.

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