Anyone In Henryford Hospital Nursing Program

CandyGyrl · Apr 24, 2008

no problem, its a pleasure to help wherever i can.

could u give me more details on he program if u have any?

right now i don't have any information, i just submitted my acceptance letter so i'm sure they'll send me a welcome packet with information essential to orientation.

is it hard or is it ok?

"hard" means different things to different people. so i'm sure its based on the perception of the individual experience. personally hfcc was a little too easy for me as i'm sure its meant to be, {duh community college} some people struggled though. i just went through a pretty rigorous semester at wayne state with classes 5 days a week twice a day and i feel if i survived that with a's then, this should be a cake walk not that it doesn't come with hard work which some people are just not disciplined at and this is key.

is it at a fast pace? because it doesn't seem like it because even at the college the program is only 16months it is just broken up where the summers are off.

they are really really pushing the concept that this program is very rigorous and although i understand that the winter pgms at hfcc is 16mos i believe its only really fast paced from jan-summer because you are playing catch up and in the fall you basically start with the students that began the previous fall and then it settles a bit except you didn't get a chance for a break like the fall students.

do they have pm clinicals?

no. from what i was told the hours are pretty set and there is not much room for flexibility this is why some individuals that are interviewed are not recommended for the program because of their inability to conform to such a rigid format due to work scheduling, child care issues, and other obligations that they are unable to quickly revamp.

are the instructors there crazy?(haha)

theres at least one in every bunch

overall how's the program?

i don't know. but i'm optimistic that it is a good one. i mean hfcc has a pretty good reputation so, this program is actually being taught by hfcc instructors so its no different from the college program held on campus. hfhs is only providing the funding, the educational facility and the location for clinicals.

are u excited and nervous to start?

yes i mean i've been waiting for this it feels like forever. i'm still enrolled in the fall 08 pgm at hfcc and i've applied to wsu for fall 08 so if this doesn't quite cut it for me i have options.

when does the program actually start?

i heard like the second week of may

yes like may 6th or 7th.

have u started your shots and titers yet?

actually when i accepted for winter 08 i did do all of this in december so i'm all set with that except the drug screening which i'm sure they'll need a recent one.

if a person was to fail a class are they automatically kicked into the traitional program at the college without having to wait out a whole year?

not sure. i know they're out of the accelerated pgm but as far as where it goes from there... don't know.

are the instructors very helpful?

i'm sure they are; after all we are a reflection of them and i'm sure that the hospital would not continue to utilize a school that has a poor student nurse curriculum--after all we are their future employees.

i really appreciate everything

glad to help.

jabraham99 · Apr 24, 2008

no problem, its a pleasure to help wherever i can.
could u give me more details on he program if u have any?
right now i don't have any information, i just submitted my acceptance letter so i'm sure they'll send me a welcome packet with information essential to orientation.
is it hard or is it ok?
"hard" means different things to different people. so i'm sure its based on the perception of the individual experience. personally hfcc was a little too easy for me as i'm sure its meant to be, {duh community college} some people struggled though. i just went through a pretty rigorous semester at wayne state with classes 5 days a week twice a day and i feel if i survived that with a's then, this should be a cake walk not that it doesn't come with hard work which some people are just not disciplined at and this is key.
is it at a fast pace? because it doesn't seem like it because even at the college the program is only 16months it is just broken up where the summers are off.
they are really really pushing the concept that this program is very rigorous and although i understand that the winter pgms at hfcc is 16mos i believe its only really fast paced from jan-summer because you are playing catch up and in the fall you basically start with the students that began the previous fall and then it settles a bit except you didn't get a chance for a break like the fall students.
do they have pm clinicals?
no. from what i was told the hours are pretty set and there is not much room for flexibility this is why some individuals that are interviewed are not recommended for the program because of their inability to conform to such a rigid format due to work scheduling, child care issues, and other obligations that they are unable to quickly revamp.
are the instructors there crazy?(haha)
theres at least one in every bunch
overall how's the program?
i don't know. but i'm optimistic that it is a good one. i mean hfcc has a pretty good reputation so, this program is actually being taught by hfcc instructors so its no different from the college program held on campus. hfhs is only providing the funding, the educational facility and the location for clinicals.
are u excited and nervous to start?
yes i mean i've been waiting for this it feels like forever. i'm still enrolled in the fall 08 pgm at hfcc and i've applied to wsu for fall 08 so if this doesn't quite cut it for me i have options.
when does the program actually start?
i heard like the second week of may
yes like may 6th or 7th.
have u started your shots and titers yet?
actually when i accepted for winter 08 i did do all of this in december so i'm all set with that except the drug screening which i'm sure they'll need a recent one.
if a person was to fail a class are they automatically kicked into the traitional program at the college without having to wait out a whole year?
not sure. i know they're out of the accelerated pgm but as far as where it goes from there... don't know.
are the instructors very helpful?
i'm sure they are; after all we are a reflection of them and i'm sure that the hospital would not continue to utilize a school that has a poor student nurse curriculum--after all we are their future employees.
i really appreciate everything
glad to help.

i personally take offense to your "duh community college" comment. i have attended both university and community college. i can tell you that community college is not easier (when it comes to nursing)

momof2*s · Apr 24, 2008

Id like to second the offense about the community colleges espically when UNIVERSITY students come on the floor behind the community colleges and this I can say from experience because I have worked with both and had both shadow me...CC's get more hands on and UNIV. are more into the theory, I personally would rather have the hands on experience vs. the books especially looking at what we are doing! Not saying that the 4 years are bad just the two are different and I dont think ANY personalized negitivity to one or the other should be should stated in such a rude manner!

jabraham99 · Apr 24, 2008

Id like to second the offense about the community colleges espically when UNIVERSITY students come on the floor behind the community colleges and this I can say from experience because I have worked with both and had both shadow me...CC's get more hands on and UNIV. are more into the theory, I personally would rather have the hands on experience vs. the books especially looking at what we are doing! Not saying that the 4 years are bad just the two are different and I dont think ANY personalized negitivity to one or the other should be should stated in such a rude manner!

How great it is to hear from someone who has actually seen both sides!! If anyone should know, you should. Thanks for the input. The original poster seems to have a very high opinion of herself. I hope this doesn't get in her way of being a caring and compassionate nurse. I know for a fact that you cannot ever become to cocky. I also agree, it was stated in a rude manner.

momof2*s · Apr 24, 2008

Thanks; have you ever heard the saying "nurses eat thier young" well I use to work on a unit like that and now the unit I work on is amazing, not that we ALWAYS get along but I lost count on how many times we

have all taken bat for one another (the way it should be)they dont try to upstage eachother, so long story short I have seen both sides of the fence and definetly like the side im on now!

Good luck to you and everything you do. :saint:

excited08 · Apr 24, 2008

no problem, its a pleasure to help wherever i can.
could u give me more details on he program if u have any?
right now i don't have any information, i just submitted my acceptance letter so i'm sure they'll send me a welcome packet with information essential to orientation.
is it hard or is it ok?
"hard" means different things to different people. so i'm sure its based on the perception of the individual experience. personally hfcc was a little too easy for me as i'm sure its meant to be, {duh community college} some people struggled though. i just went through a pretty rigorous semester at wayne state with classes 5 days a week twice a day and i feel if i survived that with a's then, this should be a cake walk not that it doesn't come with hard work which some people are just not disciplined at and this is key.
is it at a fast pace? because it doesn't seem like it because even at the college the program is only 16months it is just broken up where the summers are off.
they are really really pushing the concept that this program is very rigorous and although i understand that the winter pgms at hfcc is 16mos i believe its only really fast paced from jan-summer because you are playing catch up and in the fall you basically start with the students that began the previous fall and then it settles a bit except you didn't get a chance for a break like the fall students.
do they have pm clinicals?
no. from what i was told the hours are pretty set and there is not much room for flexibility this is why some individuals that are interviewed are not recommended for the program because of their inability to conform to such a rigid format due to work scheduling, child care issues, and other obligations that they are unable to quickly revamp.
are the instructors there crazy?(haha)
theres at least one in every bunch
overall how's the program?
i don't know. but i'm optimistic that it is a good one. i mean hfcc has a pretty good reputation so, this program is actually being taught by hfcc instructors so its no different from the college program held on campus. hfhs is only providing the funding, the educational facility and the location for clinicals.
are u excited and nervous to start?
yes i mean i've been waiting for this it feels like forever. i'm still enrolled in the fall 08 pgm at hfcc and i've applied to wsu for fall 08 so if this doesn't quite cut it for me i have options.
when does the program actually start?
i heard like the second week of may
yes like may 6th or 7th.
have u started your shots and titers yet?
actually when i accepted for winter 08 i did do all of this in december so i'm all set with that except the drug screening which i'm sure they'll need a recent one.
if a person was to fail a class are they automatically kicked into the traitional program at the college without having to wait out a whole year?
not sure. i know they're out of the accelerated pgm but as far as where it goes from there... don't know.
are the instructors very helpful?
i'm sure they are; after all we are a reflection of them and i'm sure that the hospital would not continue to utilize a school that has a poor student nurse curriculum--after all we are their future employees.
i really appreciate everything
glad to help.

hey, thanks for the info it is relly helpful, i see i might have to not except because i need pm clinicals desperately:crying2:

but thanks greatly:)

CandyGyrl · Apr 25, 2008

Excited 08

Don't take my word for it... Please check into it for yourself as I'm sure you will -- there may be some opportunities for you to take pm clinicals so continue forward and be sure you ask them all of the great questions that you've asked me.

As for everyone else. Please accept my apologies. In no way was I attempting to be rude/obnoxious and offend anyone as I can see how it was perceived in that manner. My tone--although meant to have a sarcastically humorous undertone; were nonetheless cutting and cruel.

I have spent most of my academic career in community college and I have had wonderful instructors that I've learned so much from so I am not knocking CC's. Although yes it had been a observation of mines and a well known fact to most people, that CC is where you can take classes for not only less money, but also less rigor and demand as a student.

Nonetheless that doesn't discount the bottom line but lets be real wouldn't you rather take A&P at CC and have it divided into 2 semesters where the instructor knows you by name as opposed to taking it all in 1 semester, with 4 other classes, with only 1 class being offered at one set time, being 1 of 300 and the instructor could give a damn whether you live or die (being sarcastic).

Education is education and sure I believe you can get an excellent one at CC probably better than some high priced universities-- BUT CC was designed to meet the needs of the individual who needs a milder paced environment to prepare for the next step:

The high school student whose grades weren't that great to be accepted into college and now has a 2nd chance to build a solid GPA so that they may transfer to a university, or the working adult who wants to get back in school and may do so in an environment that caters to a busy work schedule by offering more flexibility, or the single mom who wants to "give it another shot" but hasn't been in school in over 15 years and is unsure of her abilities. CC's not big Universities meet the needs of the aforementioned and much more and they do so for a reason.

I may have undone what I intended to do (which was to apologize for my arrogance) but I was only stating my opinion (that it was too easy) based on my experience thusfar. The "DUH" part came in as a check to myself in understanding that CC is not meant to make you want to jump out of a window it is designed to help you meet your educational goals on a much smaller, personable and much more cost effective way.

tonyal · Apr 25, 2008

"i have spent most of my academic career in community college and i have had wonderful instructors that i've learned so much from so i am not knocking cc's. although yes it had been a observation of mines and a well known fact to most people, that cc is where you can take classes for not only less money, but also less rigor and demand as a student."

why do you feel the need to try and discredit cc"s? you have knocked it every chance you've gotten. a lot of cc students are ones that could not afford to go to a university and if they are filled with people as condescending as you are i would much rather stay away from them. also i don't know what classes you took, but mine were just as complicated and i am sure i have learned just as much from my cc profs. as i would have in a university. as for it being to easy, if you ask other people and teachers, they recommend who is good and who is just filling a teaching spot. i asked my good teachers who they recomend and i haven't been steered wrong yet on getting a great class and not just an easy "a". you make your education what you can and it won't matter where you went. but that is just my :twocents:

MySimplePlan · Apr 25, 2008

personally hfcc was a little too easy for me as i'm sure its meant to be, {duh community college} some people struggled though.

did you learn that sentence structure at the university?

good luck with the cakewalk, milder-paced environment that is hfcc's nursing program. when i'm walking across the stage next week, i'll remember that i am cakewalking, not accepting my diploma. thanks.

another thing: do you know how many people enrolled in community colleges have 4 year degrees in other fields? their grades are just fine before they arrived here. my grades were fabulous coming in, remained stellar throughout ns, and are simply wonderful as i exit. that is representative of my effort, not the ease of the program.

jabraham99 · Apr 25, 2008

personally hfcc was a little too easy for me as i'm sure its meant to be, {duh community college} some people struggled though.
did you learn that sentence structure at the university?
good luck with the cakewalk, milder-paced environment that is hfcc's nursing program. when i'm walking across the stage next week, i'll remember that i am cakewalking, not accepting my diploma. thanks.
another thing: do you know how many people enrolled in community colleges have 4 year degrees in other fields? their grades are just fine before they arrived here. my grades were fabulous coming in, remained stellar throughout ns, and are simply wonderful as i exit. that is representative of my effort, not the ease of the program.

well said my simple plan!!! congratulations on getting that diploma (even if it was from a community college!) hehehe

CandyGyrl · Apr 25, 2008

Wowwww. I didn't know that my DISSERTATION was being checked for spelling and grammar:chuckle. As I stated before MOST OF MY ACADEMIC CAREER HAS ATTAINED THROUGH A C.C so you do the math:smokin:. I apparantly am no good at it.

It sounds like the need to be so offended and defensive about something so insignificant stems from ones own insecurities in thine self:rolleyes:. In retrospect I am mature enough to admit when I'm wrong and move on. It's very possible (and I gave this a quick thought) that I could've (yes me) developed an insecurity about CC's based on jokes, comments, and triffle remarks made upon me from my university peers and so I have, in turn, subconsciously developed the same condescending tones, without ever realizing it and thats not cool because I remembered feeling as if nothing I'd done up until that point was "real". :nono: Again I won't apologize for having an opinion nor speaking the truth but I do apologize if anyone felt slighted :cry: by comments that weren't meant to sting.

And on that note... you can stick a fork in it because I'm DONE.

amybethf · Apr 25, 2008

Candygirl- I am graduate of WSU and just about to finish my 1st year of nursing school @ HFCC. That said, I find it incredulous and extremely condescending that you would make such a statement about CC's. The program @ HFCC is known as one of the best colleges nationwide for an ADN! You have to have an 80% to pass and in nursing school, that can be very difficult considering the demanding nature of the program and the fact that we use bachelor level books. But you will to wait and see for yourself. Hopefully all the smartness that you apply to your posts will help you out. There is quite a considerable failure rate and hopefully you won't fall into that trap. Oh, but it's only a CC so who cares right?!