Published Dec 15, 2004
luilui_604, BSN, RN
87 Posts
hello everyone and thanks for reading this thread...
first of all, my colleague graduated with a BSN degree from a recognized university and recently passed her NCLEX...she went through the visa screen process and got DENIED! Apparently, she was told that her 4 year nursing education could not fulfill the required number of clinical hours needed in certain areas of nursing. WHAT BS!!! she was also told to "somehow" take the courses she needed to fulfill the required clinical hours in order for her visa screen to get approved....i talked to a nursing agency today because i will be writing my NCLEX and will apply for my visascreen in the new year, and i was told that this has happened to several people in ontario as well.....
can it get any more frustrating when we constantly hear a "NURSING SHORTAGE"?? the visa screen process is just another way to milk our money and to make it difficult for us to work in the states :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire
has anyone, or does anyone know of someone who has their visascreen denied for the same reasons?? I would love to get this discussion going because i think it is such a waste slaving through all this NCLEX preparation and all the expensive fees, only to find out that you are not even qualified to go after 4 grueling years to get your BSN degree!!! and by the way, I also graduated from the same University as my friend, but attended a different college under the same collaborative nursing program......
2ndCareerRN
583 Posts
Well, I believe that if you want to go to the US to work, you should have your ducks in a row before applying.
The requirements for a visa are not secret. The requirements are available to anyone who can access the right information. As you are on this board I assume you are computer literate, which would help quite a bit.
Yes, it is frustrating to think you are ready to go, and then be denied. But, had you researched the requirements prior to applying you may have known of the problems with your school clinical hours meeting the visa requirements.
Yes, there is a nursing shortage, in the US, in Canada, in the UK, and also in Australia/New Zealand. But, "shortage" does not equal easing of requirements. If I wanted to immigrate, or work in another country, I would spend a lot of time trying to find all the information I could prior to applying. It is just the smart thing to do before spending large sums of money and then finding out you aren't qualified.
bob
fergus51
6,620 Posts
The requirements haven't changed at all. The visa screen is just a money grab where Canadian nurses have to pay a company to prove all the things they always had to prove before getting a visa. It's a total waste.
If you went through the collaborative program with Douglas College you shouldn't have a problem getting the visa screen.
Is this company a US company, or a Canadian company? If you have to do the work to get the visa, why do a visa screen? I am a little in the dark here. It seems as though it is something like a NCLEX course before the test. Either you know it or not. A NCLEX prep course will not make up for 4 years of classes. Same thing with the visa, either you have done everything, or not. Why pay a company to tell you that?
My friend went through Douglas College and did the UVIC transfer for her BSN and got denied for her visa screen.....I went through Langara College and also finished the UVIC nursing program....i just haven't written my NCLEX yet nor have i applied for my visascreen, i'm just in the process of getting everything together.....but CGFNS does not specify the number of clinical hours in each different area of nursing, or at least i have not come across this....if anyone knows this kind of information, please share! thank u
The requirements haven't changed at all. The visa screen is just a money grab where Canadian nurses have to pay a company to prove all the things they always had to prove before getting a visa. It's a total waste. If you went through the collaborative program with Douglas College you shouldn't have a problem getting the visa screen.
visa screen is required for anyone who applies after April 2004...it is a screening process to decide whether international nurses are qualified/fit to enter the U.S. and practice as health care professionals....they assess your english langauage profeciency, your professional education and etc....this is a required process to see if you meet the requirements to work in the U.S.....it is just another hurdle to go through and BS if you ask me!
Is this company a US company, or a Canadian company? If you have to do the work to get the visa, why do a visa screen? I am a little in the dark here. It seems as though it is something like a NCLEX course before the test. Either you know it or not. A NCLEX prep course will not make up for 4 years of classes. Same thing with the visa, either you have done everything, or not. Why pay a company to tell you that?bob
Bob, it's a US company. Up until this year, Canadian nurses wanting a TN visa under NAFTA could just get one at the border as long as they had proof of their lisence, citizenship, education and had passed the NCLEX. Now they have to send all those things to an American company who will verify them before going to the border and getting their visa, and they get to pay $325 for the privilege. So, they are not changing the requirements or being made to prove anything they didn't have to before, they just have to spend a couple hundred bucks and go through some redundant paperwork.
skyblue
6 Posts
I have a co-worker who got denied for visascreen because she did not do clinical in maternity and pediatric. She graduated in Nursing Diploma from
Humber College in Toronto.
paddi
22 Posts
Hi there..
There seem to be quite a bit of confution with Visa Screen etc., I am qualified from India as a BSN with about 12-15 yrs experience as an OR RN. The easiest entry we got as a whole family was UK., it just happened in 4 wks after my vedio-conference interview, ofcourse after I fullfilled my requmts with UKCC board/ London; they would specify what they need and., its all ur running around to fullfill them.
I did work in Liverpool, as an OR Anesthesia nurse for 3 yrs, then I was in the process of USA immigration, this was done with no costs involved, the Hospital via the agency that recruited me did all this for free of cost, with reimbursement of travel etc. The condition was a contract for 3 yrs; So here we are in US and working as an OR RN. We still love Liverpool, and miss our friends there..
So I feel that as someone mentioned earlier. we need to be at the right place at the right time; make the right moves and follow up the paper-work,its all there over the NET, one can down-load the same from the official web-sites and not be distracted by the agency web sites. There could be basic costs/fee involved, u hv no choice but to pay-upfront. Anyway its all up to you where u want to settle down orwhat your priorities are!!!!!!!!!!!.
If got them in the right perspective, if its USA/Canada/UK ---all u need to do is work out the protocall..
Alll the best, merry x-mas and a happy new year u to all .....
....espl to all the staff, who keep this site going 24/7/366., its one of the best interactive web-site; worth to be recon with... bye for now, take care with all that disaster all out there..reneber them in your prayers...
with regds PD
I have a co-worker who got denied for visascreen because she did not do clinical in maternity and pediatric. She graduated in Nursing Diploma fromHumber College in Toronto.
letina
828 Posts
The requirements for a visa are not secret.
Really? I have exhausted all attempts to try to find out what the 'required clinical hours' are to meet the requirements for visascreen and credentials evaluation. I have been told repeatedly to have my transcripts submitted (and hand over my money of course!) then they (CGFNS) will inform me if I have the required number of hours or if I will need to do further study/training. Nobody seemed able or willing to tell me before I parted company with $325 :angryfire
suzanne4, RN
26,410 Posts
The requirements for a visa are not secret. Really? I have exhausted all attempts to try to find out what the 'required clinical hours' are to meet the requirements for visascreen and credentials evaluation. I have been told repeatedly to have my transcripts submitted (and hand over my money of course!) then they (CGFNS) will inform me if I have the required number of hours or if I will need to do further study/training. Nobody seemed able or willing to tell me before I parted company with $325 :angryfire
As I keep stating, CGFNS considers each application on its own merit and will not make a blanket answer. You will save yourself a lot of time and grief by just submitting the docxuments to them. Either way, you still need to go thru them, whether just for the Visa Screen or for a credentials verification also.