Any Np wished they went to PA school?

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I know this can be offensive but was wondering if any NP who works with PA find that they have more medical background or more well rounded on dx and diagnosis? Any info would be helpful

Specializes in Emergency Department.
Oh, I can believe it. They are literally soiling their britches over at studentdoc site over the DNP.

Thanks for that -- I just lost an hour of my life reading the paranoid rants of some student gods. Some of that trash they spewed-- vowing never to hire any nurse specialists, NPs, or DNPs in favor of PAs -- was very scary to read. Does anyone experience that sort of hostility as NPs or specialists in 'real life'?

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Thanks for that -- I just lost an hour of my life reading the paranoid rants of some student gods. Some of that trash they spewed-- vowing never to hire any nurse specialists, NPs, or DNPs in favor of PAs -- was very scary to read. Does anyone experience that sort of hostility as NPs or specialists in 'real life'?

Yes one of the larger cities here in Georgia that has one of the few level I trauma centers.... The OB/GYNs gang up on womens heath nurses / midwives...

Also due to MAG in this state NPs, in general, have it rougher than their peers in most other states.

All this kind of stuff should help fuel the fire for a mandatory consistent core curriculum and licensure requirements for all NPs/schools from sea to shinning sea..

Although wait until you see the hostility from some nurses...

I personally know a doctor who was a nurse and she has forgotten completely everything it means to be a nurse and sometimes a caring human being. :o

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I do think NP school needs to be structured more like PA school, with specific specialties/rotations (ie internal medicine, ER, ortho, neuro, peds, womens health.) It seems that academic nursing is so hell-bent on establishing itself as an academic discipline, they shy away from teaching "skills" and specific clinical knowledge.

But I do think that PA programs are too restrictive in the time commitment they require (not in terms of clinical hours, but that it must be done full time straight through.)

Maybe we need to merge the best of both programs?

And by the way, I learn a ton over at the PA forum. I especially enjoy the thread, "I am the object of my pimp's affection". If you don't know what pimping is, you will after reading the thread!

Oldiebutgoodie

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Thanks for that -- I just lost an hour of my life reading the paranoid rants of some student gods. Some of that trash they spewed-- vowing never to hire any nurse specialists, NPs, or DNPs in favor of PAs -- was very scary to read. Does anyone experience that sort of hostility as NPs or specialists in 'real life'?

Yes, the hostility is out there. But for every place that doesn't want an NP there are plenty of others who do. Ignore the crap you hear and move on with what you want to do. The same goes with being a PA.

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And by the way, I learn a ton over at the PA forum. I especially enjoy the thread, "I am the object of my pimp's affection". If you don't know what pimping is, you will after reading the thread!

Where is said PA forum, url-wise? Thanks!

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Where is said PA forum, url-wise? Thanks!

http://www.physicianassistantforum.com

The object of my pimp's affection thread is in the Clinical Rotations forum.

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http://www.physicianassistantforum.com

The object of my pimp's affection thread is in the Clinical Rotations forum.

There is a similar thread in the Student Doctor forum, but the PA Forum's thread is much better. Hmmmm..... what does THAT mean? There are some real stumpers.

Oldiebutgoodie

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Specializes in Ante-Intra-Postpartum, Post Gyne.

NP are also PAs. When a NP graduates they also get their PA-C; at least all the NPs I work with have (most I know graduated from UCDavis so I am not sure if they are the same) I don't imagine that PAs have more medical experience than NPs since NPs have to have a BSN to apply and PAs do not; only a # of hours of medical experience (this could be CMA or CNAs) and the pre-reqs, and NPs grauate with a masters while PAs can still graduate with only a certificate and not even a ASD. I have worked with FNPs and PAs and they are both good at what they do

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NP are also PAs. When a NP graduates they also get their PA-C; at least all the NPs I work with have (most I know graduated from UCDavis so I am not sure if they are the same) I don't imagine that PAs have more medical experience than NPs since NPs have to have a BSN to apply and PAs do not; only a # of hours of medical experience (this could be CMA or CNAs) and the pre-reqs, and NPs grauate with a masters while PAs can still graduate with only a certificate and not even a ASD. I have worked with FNPs and PAs and they are both good at what they do

Are you talking about in general or graduates of UCDavis? NPs are NPs, PAs are PAs where I come from. You either go to a school of nursing for an NP or a Physician Assistant school for a PA. There is no automatic NP-PA.

Oldiebutgoodie

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