Sort of a rant but for whatever reason at my facility we are being told there is a shortage of IV compazine, zofran, reglan and now we are running short on IV phenergan and most patients have it set up as IM phenergan. REALLY!!!! How are we so short on all of these drugs! I just do not get it....must be another debacle of the healthcare systemSo I have to tell my nauseated uncomfortable rectal cancer pt that not only do we not have much to give them BUT all we have is an IM injection.... let me tell you the response I got "I would rather be nauseated and puke than have another injection" can you blame them????Oh and not to mention the 5000 Unit SQ heparin shortage that we are now required to pull from the 10,000 unit vial and get a cosign....talk about waste of time and energy.Thanks for listening 0 Likes
madwife2002, BSN, RN Specializes in RN, BSN, CHDN. Has 26 years experience. Feb 19, 2012 That is appalling, how can we be short on anti-emetics? 0 Likes
FLmomof5 Feb 19, 2012 We have been short on phenergan for weeks.Why are we short? A combination of Govt mandates and business profitability. The Govt, in its infinite wisdom (scarcasm here), thought they could mandate competition for drugs to lower cost. To "encourage" this competition, drug companies have to have Govt approval on how much they manufacture.On the business side, one company decides a drug - say in this case: phenergan, is no longer profitable. See the drug company wants to charge $20 per dose for the drug and the govt (medicare/medicaid) will reimburse only $4. So the company stops making the drug. The other drug companies cannot simply increase production to offset the lower production nationwide...they have to get Govt approval and that is NEVER a quick process.Add the feature of....oops, drug company had an issue in production of a drug. They report it to the Govt. They recall what they produced....lowering availability. They fix the problem in their plant, but then need Govt approval to restart production and that takes months and months.No one piece is responsible. It is the calamity of the combination that has caused the shortages. 0 Likes
Altra, BSN, RN Specializes in Emergency & Trauma/Adult ICU. Feb 19, 2012 ... To "encourage" this competition, drug companies have to have Govt approval on how much they manufacture....The other drug companies cannot simply increase production to offset the lower production nationwide...they have to get Govt approval and that is NEVER a quick process.Do you have a citation/source for your statement that pharmaceutical companies are mandated to produce x amount (and only x amount) of specific drugs? 0 Likes
FLmomof5 Feb 19, 2012 Let me go search for it again. When we first had our phenergan shortage, I researched the cause on the internet.I did not give credence to any stories that were from political sites. These were medical sites. One article was written by a cardiologist about the recall and production approval issue after a bad batch.Be back soon.... 0 Likes
tokmom, BSN, RN Specializes in Certified Med/Surg tele, and other stuff. Has 30 years experience. Feb 19, 2012 Short too. We have to do IV phenergen or PO zofran 0 Likes
blondy2061h, MSN, RN Specializes in Oncology. Has 15 years experience. Feb 19, 2012 We've been giving phenergan like crazy because of the compazine shortages. Haven't seemed to have a problem with Zofran (thank God!). 0 Likes
FLmomof5 Feb 19, 2012 This site shows many of the causes....but here is a highlight:Drug Shortages in the United States"Submissions by manufacturers that the FDA will expedite include requests to increase capacity, extend expiration dates, use a new source for a raw material, and change product specifications"So, by inference, one can see that manufactures must request permission from the FDA to increase production (aka: capacity).Another site:Seeking solutions to “incredibly complex issue” of drug shortages DFM News | Delaware First Media“One of the goals of the Drug Shortage Prevention Act is to encourage manufacturers to make investments in increasing their capacity,” Carney said. “Expediting the FDA approval process and authorizing the Drug Enforcement Agency to change its existing quota system are critical to accomplishing that goal."Haven't found the cardiologists article yet....but this is a start. 0 Likes
FLmomof5 Feb 19, 2012 We've been giving phenergan like crazy because of the compazine shortages. Haven't seemed to have a problem with Zofran (thank God!).I wish we could! We had to BEG the pharmacy to give us phenergan for a currently vomitting pt for whom zofran did nothing. 0 Likes
psu_213, BSN, RN Specializes in Emergency, Telemetry, Transplant. Has 6 years experience. Feb 19, 2012 According to our pharmacy, there is no IV compazine in the house (d/t a nationwide shortage). Compazine had been our 2nd line tx for N/V (zofran is the first) and compazine is our first line tx. for migrane even if it is without N/V. We have had no shortage issues with IV zofran. We almost never give phenergan. In the rare instances the docs order it, we have had no issues getting it from pharmacy. 0 Likes
DookieMeisterRN Specializes in Cardiac, PCU, Surg/Onc, LTC, Peds. Feb 19, 2012 The only shortage we had was compazine at our hospital and that was last summer. We would def know if there was a shortage now. Why is it that some facilities are short and not others? Does it vary by region? Or do some hospitals stockpile?It's just horrendous how saving money at 'the top' trickles down to the 'little people'. 0 Likes
Altra, BSN, RN Specializes in Emergency & Trauma/Adult ICU. Feb 19, 2012 This site shows many of the causes....but here is a highlight:Drug Shortages in the United States"Submissions by manufacturers that the FDA will expedite include requests to increase capacity, extend expiration dates, use a new source for a raw material, and change product specifications"So, by inference, one can see that manufactures must request permission from the FDA to increase production (aka: capacity).Another site:Seeking solutions to "incredibly complex issue" of drug shortages*DFM News | Delaware First Media"One of the goals of the Drug Shortage Prevention Act is to encourage manufacturers to make investments in increasing their capacity," Carney said. "Expediting the FDA approval process and authorizing the Drug Enforcement Agency to change its existing quota system are critical to accomplishing that goal."Haven't found the cardiologists article yet....but this is a start.Thank you for that link to an American Bar Association article/publication. After reading it and its accompanying citation list, I went on to read one of the sources cited:http://www.fda.gov/downloads/AboutFDA/ReportsManualsForms/Reports/UCM277755.pdfThis October 2011 document, "A Review of FDA's Approaches to Medical Product Shortages" is worth reading, for anyone who's interested. The section devoted to sterile injectable drugs (which comprise the vast majority of drugs of which there has been a shortage in the last decade) explains that the manufacture of these drugs is regulated in that FDA approval of ingredients, sources of ingredients, and actual physical inspection of existing and proposed new facilities used to manufacture these drugs is required by law.The report also explains that manufacturing facilities of sterile injectables typically run at near-maximum capacity. So while the FDA does not directly require pharmaceutical companies to manufacture x quantity of Drug A ... the regulatory process does mean that production cannot be quickly increased to meet increased demand or to compensate for manufacturing problems.http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/DrugSafety/DrugShortages/ucm050792.htmThis very helpful page of the FDA website lists current shortages. There appear to be 11 manufacturers of Ondasteron, with several of these shortages expected to resolve within this month. 0 Likes
Perpetual Student Specializes in PACU. Has 4+ years experience. Feb 19, 2012 We're currently short on injectable ondansetron, but there's still plenty in the Pyxis for now. When feasible the orally disintegrating tablets are being given as a substitute. I've noticed that some of the anesthesiologists are being less aggressive with nausea prophylaxis than they usually are due to the shortage, while some others have been giving more of other drugs (e.g. droperidol) that we have plenty of.I like using something sedating like droperidol or promethazine for the inpatients, but for the outpatients I like ondansetron because it's less likely to delay discharge for sedation reasons. Scopolamine patches can be great. A little extra IV fluid in someone who can tolerate it often works wonders.Don't forget to give the ol' alcohol pad sniff a try, especially when you're giving a drug that takes longer to work, or the only prescribed drugs aren't doing the trick. In my experience it often helps very, very quickly. There are multiple studies to support it. When I think about it, I always stuff some alcohol pads in my pocket so that if a patient c/o nausea while we're in transit or after arriving on the floor I have a treatment at hand.I wager the alcohol sniff might not be the best treatment for the hung over patient, however. :barf01: 0 Likes
umcRN, BSN, RN Has 4 years experience. Feb 19, 2012 yup, sort of all those things here, as well as versed, papaverine, vec and a few others. Starting to get real frustrating as I work in peds and there aren't always a ton of alternatives 0 Likes
NayRN Specializes in med/surg. Has 4 years experience. Feb 20, 2012 we have been out of compazine for a while, and we have a critical shortage of phenergan and zofran. (Missouri) 0 Likes
becca001 Specializes in critical care/tele/emergency. Feb 20, 2012 Have seen the shortage of antiemetics but the most frustrating one is IV Valium. Had a seizing peds pt but pharm said they had been out for a couple months. Ativan just doesn't seem to work as well or as quickly. 0 Likes
wooh, BSN, RN Feb 20, 2012 I find it hard to fault the government for having regulations in place to guarantee sterility and quality of IV drugs. There's a recall on OTC meds right now where you could open the bottle of something and get a few "bonus pills" mixed in of random other meds. Do we really want things like that happening with our IV meds? 0 Likes
Hay Nars, RN Specializes in Med-Surg. Has 2 years experience. Feb 23, 2012 Our hospital in South Florida also has a shortage of Reglan, Zofran, Ativan, Toradol and even Hydromorphone (and more)! When the patient needs these medications we must call the pharmacy and let them know and sometimes it takes well over an hour to get our PRN medication we shouldn't have to wait on. 0 Likes