the ANA supporting this idea for health care reform?

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9/12/09

I heard,and I do not if it is true or not,but that the American Nursing Accociation is supporting this health care bill that they are currently trying to pass?Have they even looked at whats in that bill?How could they possibly support a single payer(the goverment)system?Could some one please shed some light on this.Thank you.

James

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They were at a news conference this week with Obama supporting the reform. Evidently the AMA and big pharm are too. I just wonder what kind of back room deals are going on.

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Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.

cna/nnoc has been supporting single payer health care reform too:

http://www.guaranteedhealthcare.org/node

top 10 reasons for enacting a single payer healthcare system

one of the many reasons nurses are behind this is due to the every day situations/healthcare crises we frontline nurses deal with everyday for those who are faced with no care for lack of insurance, denial of coverage or exhaustion of benefits just when one needs it the most.

this weeks patient stories that have crossed my home care agency desk:

25yo male with glioblastoma brain tumor who's ssi benefits put him $1,000 over medicaid cap. issues with pain mgmt and ongoing oral palliative chemo to suppress tumor growth. desires hospice care. able to get chemo covered by drug company under compassionate usage but can not be involved in hospice per drug company program guidelines. so hospice unable to care for patient for free.

hospitals own home health agency did not accept patient for coverage since no palliative care program.

46 yo with massive cva has minimal home healthcare benefit pays $50.00 visit toward home care (average visit cost is $120.00), limit of 100 visits /calendar year. has $500.00 deductible. only one discipline can visit per day. needs sn, pt, ot, st, hha family initially declined care due to co-pays. i talked them into accepting under our charity care program since income less 250% above poverty line.

76 yo with medicare advantage program based in california ----but living in pa with daughter past 3 years. no out of state benefit for health care. was involved in "guest benefit program" allows care out of state: did not return paperwork in april so terminated effective 4/30/09. has leg ulcers.

all of these persons would receive needed care in canada, england and australia ---but not in us.

reform needed now.

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The ANA has supported a single-payer system for many years. They (we) were promoting this back in '93 when the Clintons were attempting to pass a reform plan. They support it because they believe it's the most fair and effective system for providing healthcare to everyone.

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ANA sold out advanced practice nurses years ago. What do you expect them to support? They are run by liberal socialists.

9/12/09

I heard,and I do not if it is true or not,but that the American Nursing Accociation is supporting this health care bill that they are currently trying to pass?Have they even looked at whats in that bill?How could they possibly support a single payer(the goverment)system?Could some one please shed some light on this.Thank you.

James

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Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.
ana sold out advanced practice nurses years ago. what do you expect them to support? they are run by liberal socialists.

guess ana members are just reflective of society at large: the cbs news nationwide poll shows that 60 percent now mostly agree with the president’s plan

after mr. obama’s congressional address on health care reform, cbs re-interviewed 648 adults who were first interviewed in a cbs news poll conducted august 27-31. fifty-three percent of them say they tuned in to watch the speech.

among those who watched, 60 percent say they mostly agree with the health care plans the president presented; 33 percent mostly disagree. ...

policy options

in his speech, president obama offered support for the so-called “public option” -- a government-administered health insurance plan -- but said it was only one part of his plan. support for the public option has risen since last week from 57 percent to 68 percent. among speech watchers, support for the public option lies at 70 percent.

my 25+ yrs experience in ana and writing in support of advanced practice nursing refutes your claims along with:

[color=#2200cc]advanced practice nursing: essential knowledge for the profession see chapeter 13 pg 279 + 280

american nurses association - advanced practice nurses

aprn consensus model and endorsing organizations

the consensus model for aprn regulation: licensure, accreditation, certification & education (aprn consensus model) has been endorsed by 41 nursing organizations. the aprn consensus mode defines aprn practice, describes the aprn regulatory model, identifies the titles to be used, defines specialty, describes the emergence of new roles and population foci, and presents strategies for implementation. visit the aprn consensus model toolkit and see the latest list of endorsing organizations.

read about the development of the model and ana’s endorsement in the july/august 2008 issue of the american nurse, “coming together to secure strong future for aprns.”

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Specializes in Critical care, tele, Medical-Surgical.
9/12/09

I heard,and I do not if it is true or not,but that the American Nursing Accociation is supporting this health care bill that they are currently trying to pass?Have they even looked at whats in that bill?How could they possibly support a single payer(the goverment)system?Could some one please shed some light on this.Thank you.

James

There are several bills. Here are the main ones being discussed:

HR 676 is the Single Payer bill, not supported by President Obama - http://www.fiar.us/HR676.pdf

HR 3200 is NOT single payer. http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20090714/aahca.pdf

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Specializes in Vents, Telemetry, Home Care, Home infusion.

ana’s positions on healthcare reform – frequently asked questions

this frequently asked questions document answers questions on ana’s positions on health care reform, how they were developed, and the importance of grassroots political activity.

health-reform-toolkit-promo.aspx

http://www.nursingworld.org/healthcarereformtoolkit

white house document :

“[color=#a00c00]nurses for health insurance reform: stability and security for all americans"

  • no discrimination for pre-existing conditions[color=#4d4d4d][color=#4d4d4d]

[color=#4d4d4d]insurance companies will be prohibited from refusing you coverage because of your medical history.

  • no exorbitant out-of-pocket expenses, deductibles or co-pays[color=#4d4d4d][color=#4d4d4d]

[color=#4d4d4d]insurance companies will have to abide by yearly caps on how much they can charge for out-of-pocket expenses.

  • no cost-sharing for preventive care[color=#4d4d4d][color=#4d4d4d]

[color=#4d4d4d]insurance companies must fully cover, without charge, regular checkups and tests that help you prevent illness, such as mammograms or eye and foot exams for diabetics.

  • no dropping of coverage for seriously ill[color=#4d4d4d][color=#4d4d4d]

[color=#4d4d4d]insurance companies will be prohibited from dropping or watering down insurance coverage for those who become seriously ill.

  • no gender discrimination[color=#4d4d4d][color=#4d4d4d]

[color=#4d4d4d]insurance companies will be prohibited from charging you more because of your gender.

  • no annual or lifetime caps on coverage[color=#5a5a5a][color=#5a5a5a]

[color=#5a5a5a]insurance companies will be prevented from placing annual or lifetime caps on the coverage you receive.

  • extended coverage for young adults[color=#5a5a5a][color=#5a5a5a]

[color=#5a5a5a]children would continue to be eligible for family coverage through the age of 26.

  • guaranteed insurance renewal

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[color=#5a5a5a]insurance companies will be required to renew any policy as long as the policyholder pays their premium in full. insurance companies won’t be allowed to refuse renewal because someone became sick.

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Thank you Karen for posting facts on the ANA position and how it was arrived at.

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guess ana members are just reflective of society at large: the cbs news nationwide poll shows that 60 percent now mostly agree with the president's plan

kinda like this poll from cnn heavily weighted with an almost 2:1 democrat sample over republican.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/09/10/cnn-poll-double-digit-post-speech-jump-for-obama-plan/

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My 25+ yrs experience in ANA and writing in support of advanced practice nursing refutes your claims along with:

You don't refute anything try Page 116 A Professional Study and Resource Guide for the CRNA. Are you even an APRN? I don't know of one single APRN that supports the ANA.

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