American Nurses Association Urges New Tests for Philippine Nurses

pinoy_guy · Mar 6, 2007

ana has resolved that all passing applicants of the june 2006 philippine nurse licensure exam wishing to be considered for entrance into the united states to practice nursing should be required to retake a new and different nurse licensure test and obtain a passing score.

is the ana suggesting a more stringent course of action?

my interpretation is a retake of another nle, not just tests 3 & 5.

john83, BSN, RN · Mar 7, 2007

is the ANA suggesting a more stringent course of action?
my interpretation is a retake of another NLE, not just Tests 3 & 5.

So it seems...

suzanne4, RN · Mar 7, 2007

And that is what needs to be done. Not just the two sections.

Aquarian · Mar 7, 2007

And that is what needs to be done. Not just the two sections.

Agreed! A lot of people in the Philippines, including the know-it-all politicians, appointees, and I'm sorry to say... many of the June '06 passers, are not totally aware of the implication of what happened. That it is, indeed a major issue, even in the rural facilities of the US. Who among them can honestly say 100 % that they didn't receive any leaked questions? I laughed at the Cebu Governor who even went on public TV to appeal for the innocence of her subordinates. There was MASSIVE leakage. Nobody can deny that! And that means not just the tests 3 and 5. And even now, some people are even trying to go around the CGFNS' back purposefully ommitting their part in that exam. Even announcing it in this forum! My goodness! Don't think that you can turn this thing around without getting flak.

Rep · Mar 7, 2007

In fact, it is good that CGFNS only requires the retake of the Test 3 and 5 only and not a total retake as they have said that would happened if it occurs here in the US. Remember that they said before that if a scandal like that would happened in the US, a total retake is the only option to erase any doubts.

is the ANA suggesting a more stringent course of action?
my interpretation is a retake of another NLE, not just Tests 3 & 5.

pinoy_guy · Mar 8, 2007

In fact, it is good that CGFNS only requires the retake of the Test 3 and 5 only and not a total retake as they have said that would happened if it occurs here in the US. Remember that they said before that if a scandal like that would happened in the US, a total retake is the only option to erase any doubts.

we thought a total retake is the only solution. I still do.

the ANA stand could be another complication: what if CGFNS issues the VisaScreen Certificates, but ANA lobbies against hiring from this batch?

PRC should give the nurses the option to just waive the entire exam, and let the nurses take a whole NLE.

they would be charging full price for the retake of Tests 3 & 5 anyway.

all these "Good Samaritans" are just complicating things.

my 2 cents.

Rep · Mar 8, 2007

You said it better!

we thought a total retake is the only solution. I still do.
the ANA stand could be another complication: what if CGFNS issues the VisaScreen Certificates, but ANA lobbies against hiring from this batch?
PRC should give the nurses the option to just waive the entire exam, and let the nurses take a whole NLE.
they would be charging full price for the retake of Tests 3 & 5 anyway.
all these "Good Samaritans" are just complicating things.
my 2 cents.

LIEU · Mar 8, 2007

we thought a total retake is the only solution. I still do.
the ANA stand could be another complication: what if CGFNS issues the VisaScreen Certificates, but ANA lobbies against hiring from this batch?
PRC should give the nurses the option to just waive the entire exam, and let the nurses take a whole NLE.
they would be charging full price for the retake of Tests 3 & 5 anyway.
all these "Good Samaritans" are just complicating things.
my 2 cents.

sorry guys for this..but i think you are too much judgemental in us the june 2006 passers we have been criticized and discriminated,,too much, for the past months we have been subject to many talks of people, here and there..giving their opinions about us being cheaters... it is very painful to us to hear those talks and allegations about us when infact we didnt even saw the alleged leaked questions,i personally and honestly speaking did not..swear to god! ...it is very painful to hear they want us to retake those test when infact we studied hard..vry hard that we have spend so many sleepless nights just to be able to compress in our mind all the content of the books we reviewed and understnd it...not just that we also pity our parents for they are the one invested and dreamed with us that we will pass this exam and able to help them in the future...so i think you guys must also consider our feeling..when u posted somthing..we guys are professionals...nurses... who should know to consider others feelings..but now i know the option for us is to just retake the test 3 and 5 as cgfns is directed for us to realize the american we dremed of...

brita_mylove · Mar 8, 2007

You know what, I feel our June 2006 batch are cursed. It was a nightmare and still is. I don't know how many times must we be crucified for everyone's satisfaction. Only a handful was guilty of the sin and yet all of us must sacrificed. It feels like being fed in the lion's den. We are already resigned to the fact that we must take the test 3 and 5 again just to fulfill our dreams of working in the US just so we could help our family from the gutter of poverty. And yet, you keep on rubbing salt to our injury. None of us uttered any story of our sufferings. Did you know that there is this one examinee who lost her child coz she was pregnant that time due to stress after the breakout of this nightmare. She couldn't sleep after that, looking for a way out of this mess who would accept our batch in the internet. Not prejudging us, crucifying us. I guess, she found none but she was braved enough to keep going because she still has another child to think about. We all want to move on. Lucky are you, you did not suffer like we had. Lucky are you, that you could sleep soundly and get up again and have a good paying job while 17,000 are still struggling from this nightmare. We are already confused as it is, but we have the guts to move on without you people ranting about our misfortunes. We are not looking for pity nor are we soliciting empathy with anyone. Thank you if you do empathized with us if not, we appreciate a nonjudgmental comment. You do not know us, It was not our fault that this chaos skyrocketted. We were passionate at that time not to retake for the wound was fresh and our pride was hurt. But we humbled ourselves for the sake of our family and took the bitter pill with humour so let it die at that. Give us back our dignity and try not to trumple on it too much for you do not know the whole story. Remember? there are always two sides on the story. Thank you.

Rep · Mar 8, 2007

To LIEU and Brita mylove,

We are not judgmental on this issue but we have a stand here. Eversince the cheating came up we stand for a total retake and we know only a minority of the passers benefited from it.

But the thing is the exam is tainted and this affects everyone. The US or CGFNS does not see that only few cheated and will give chance to the majority to have their VSC with out problems but they see the manner the exam was done and that to them the exam has no more credibility. Therefore everybody must do it again to erase the doubts and restore the credibility of the exam. We have no control on this because CGFNS is the one laying down the rules.

It is a bitter pill to swallow but if you really want to work here then you must do what they require you to do. You passed the June 2006 the honest way and I am sure you will pass the retake.

Our stand on this issue for a retake is because we know the system here because we are here. Also the people in the Phil who are for the retake knows also the implication of this that is why there are groups there who want to do a retake but they are being vilified in public because they want to stand with the right and do the right way.

US is a country of laws unlike our country where politicians, the rich and powerful are above the law. (What you see in TV is not what you really see here. example, the police here obeys traffic rules unlike in the Philippines) And deep in your heart as a good person, you will like it here.

I wish you all the best and for those who see this issue with an open mind, your time will eventually come and you will find yourself here.

BurstPurse · Mar 9, 2007

It's a very sad situation for the June'06 passers. It's a chain of events that are now arising, who knows some state's BON will soon give their side regarding the retake. And expect more corrupt politicians to come up of another delegation to appeal on ANA. As what they always say, 'they are just prolonging your agony'. Take the complete retake first to clean your name and uplift your spirit. If you passed it before, you can successfully pass it again. Be a proud nurse and say, "I passed my board exam, not once but twice!" Only in this way you can start your career without a doubt.

Peace.