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I'm a Freshman I student in an ADN program. I'm getting really frusterated with what I feel are some poorly written test questions. I get the idea that the test questions are supposed to mimic the NCLEX by having the 'critical thinking', judgement-based questions, but I think some of the questions that I've gotten wrong this semester have logical fallacies that make the question invalid. I want opinions from you guys: are these really bad questions, or am I just 'over-thinking' them, as my instructors tell me?
Question #1:
Your client tells you he is feeling pain in a location different from where it started. You know his type of pain is....
a. referred
b. viseral
c. radiating
d. cutaneous
I picked 'c', and was wrong. The answer given by the teacher is 'a', referred. My impression of referred pain is that pain is not felt at the site of tissue damage, but is felt in a different location....so 'referred' would be the correct answer if the question read ...'Your client tells you he is feeling pain in a location different from the site of tissue damage. But, the way the question is written, 'it' refers to pain, and it is true to say that radiating pain is pain that is felt in one location, and then is felt in a different location (as it radiates from one location to the next).
Question #2
What is the surgical classification for cataract removal?
a. major
b. urgent
c. restorative
d. cosmetic
I don't think any of these answers are correct, so the question is invalid. The instructor's answer was 'c', restorative. While cataract removal does result in restored vision, the definition for restorative surgery is that is 'restores function or appearance to traumatized or malfunctioning tissues'; cataract removal does not restore function to the damaged tissue, it removes the tissue and replaces it with an artifical lens. Therefore the classification pertaining to purpose should be 'ablative', or 'ablative and transplant'. I picked 'b', urgent, thinking it was the best answer out of those provided, even though I understand that cataract surgery is better classified as an elective surgery.
3. You are teaching a patient about ways to induce sleep. You will be sure to teach him that...
a. a cup of warm, regular tea before bed will help him sleep.
b. a glass of red wine promotes deep and REM sleep
c. as you age, the length and quality of REM and deep sleep decrease
d. physical activity prevents falling asleep
Again, I think there is not a fully correct answer. C is the only completely true statement, but I would NOT teach my client that if my purpose is to teach about ways to induce sleep because it is not fully relevant to the teaching topic and would obsure the main messages that the patient should learn. I picked 'd', figuring that although physical activity may help promote sleep if it is moderate and well bedfore bedtime, it can also prevent sleep if it is to the point of fatigue or too close to bedtime.
4. Which of the following statements, if stated by your client, would show understanding of the fecal occult test?
a. I must use a 1-2" piece of formed stool
b. I will complete the test over a three day period.
c. I will wait until my cycle starts to do the test.
d. I eat red meat on a daily basis.
The instructor gave the correct answer as 'a'. I had eliminated this choice because it is true to say "You do not have to use a 1-2" piece of formed stool for the fecal occult test, instead, you can use 15 mL of liquid stool. I picked 'b' instead, because the test can be completed over three days....like the Hemoccult test directions say to do. Instructor said it's better to do it over three consecutive stools, which may be true....but I think the question is invalid as written because of the logical error in using the word 'must' in choice 'a', rather than 'can'.
5. A nurse monitors a patient's vital signs and assesses his IV medications for 15 mintues. The nurse does not acknowledge or speak to the patient or the patient's spouse while she is in the room. Which behavior is the nurse best demonstrating?
a. discourtesy
b. unprofessionalism
(c and d were nonsense answers that I can't remember)
I picked 'b', unprofessionalism, while the instructor's correct answer is 'a', discourtesy. The book lists the 'elements of professional communication' as consisting of 'courtesy', 'use of names', 'trustworthiness', 'autonomy and responsibility', and 'assertiveness'. The instructor says discourtesy is the best answer because it it most specific. I think unprofessionalism is a better choice because the nurses behavior in this situation fails to be courteous, to use names, to build trust, and to promote patient autonomy; therefore, unprofessionalism encompasses all the failures in her communication which 'discourtesy' unneccessarily limits the boundaries of the behavior. In either case, I think this question is arbitrary and could have been made a valid question by simply asking 'Which behavior is the nurse most specifically demonstrating?'
Again, am I over-analyzing or do the questions have inherent flaws? Am I misunderstanding the material somehow? Any input is appreciated. As an 'A' is a 93, there is not much room for error on these tests....and I'm debating whether I should try to formally petition a few of these questions if I end up with a 91 or 92 in the class.....
Eating unhealthy foods, too much food and not working out all these are life styles which eventually lead to obesity. It makes sense to me.
Eating unhealthy foods, too much, etc. are the lifestyle parts of this sentence while the obesity is the disease caused by those things. You could just as easily say that lung cancer is a lifestyle because smoking eventually leads to lung cancer.
While obesity certainly eventually can lead to other health problems, it is a health problem in and of itself, just like lung cancer. However, sunbathing is not a health problem, but leads to health problems.
While I understand that OPs book lists both as lifestyles, her exam only allowed for one choice and the better choice is the sunbathing which is a lifestyle and nothing else, where obesity may be a lifestyle, but is also a health condition caused by other lifestyle choices and physiology.
I tend to agree with the thought that some questions in some classes by some instructors are confusing simply to make it impossible to get 100% on tests. I think these are GREAT examples of NEEDLESSLY "difficult" test questions. Being able to "critcally think" one's way to the "best" answer of questions like these doesn't reflect student understanding of important medical concepts.
Your client tells you he is feeling pain in a location different from where it started. You know his type of pain is....
Confusing point: The "from where it started" is what makes this one confusing. Referred pain may pop up somewhere without having "started" in another location.
"Best" answer: referred pain sounds most like the description despite a starting point of the pain having been identified.
What is the surgical classification for cataract removal?
Confusing point: the choices given are from different categorization levels, Major vs minor, urgent vs elective vs emergent, etc.
"Best" answer: restorative
3. You are teaching a patient about ways to induce sleep. You will be sure to teach him that...
Confusing point: "induce sleep"
"Best" answer: C because the content is definitely true (but I could easily imagine the words "induce sleep" used as a rationale for another question with different answer set.)
4. Which of the following statements, if stated by your client, would show understanding of the fecal occult test?
Confusing point "if stated by your client" vs "understanding"
"Best" answer: B - even though not totally accurate, it shows some understanding on the part of the client (again, I could imagine a 'not totally accurate' answer as stated by client being rationale for another question with a different answer set)
5. A nurse monitors a patient's vital signs and assesses his IV medications for 15 mintues. The nurse does not acknowledge or speak to the patient or the patient's spouse while she is in the room. Which behavior is the nurse best demonstrating?
Confusing point: discourtesy is an example of (a subset of) unprofessional behavior
"Best" answer: A - "behavior"
I recently took a Masters level class in this very area. I agree with some of your impressons. The sad fact is that many question authors are only able to write their question from a limited perspective and can't objectively critique it. It is actually very difficult to write a balanced item. Keep your own sucess in perspective as well. It is not necessary to ace every exam, it is important to pass with a good grade. You will miss questions because they are poorly written. You have gotten the best experience because it has caused you to research and increase your learning, which is the real prize here. Don't forget that you are to pick the BEST answer which might not fit the question exactly.
I hate some of these test questions our instructors come up with! Our pedi instructor is big on preventing med errors, and then on one of our tests, she gave us a question that involved rehydrating a moderately dehydrated 20# child. There were five answers, and not ONE of them was right! I re-calculated five times (as did everyone else in class) before I realized that she must expect us to pick the NEXT best answer, which was still a little bit over the actual amount. And in class, she emphasized the dangers of OVERHYDRATING a child, esp. a small one. What kills me is that I know that if one of us calculated the wrong amount in the clinical setting, we would have been given a clinical warning, but she goes and puts that on a test. We complained, but she wouldn't budge on it. I understand that not everything is black and white in the real world of nursing, but I felt this was not the place to teach this sort of lesson. Oh well.
Sorry- I think all the questions are valid, and correct. I also believe that your instructors are giving you an early taste of what ANY of the testings you have coming up will be like. The NCLEX questions are similar, and any of the certification exams that I have taken in my career were similar as well. You will get used to it, but it will take time and practice.
3 is a stupid question
We have no information about the patient. What if the patient is 12 years old ? Are we supposed to tell him to drink red wine ? Are we supposed to tell him that when he gets to be 18 the length and quality of REM and deep sleep will decrease ?
Of course it won't, but then why bring up "as you get older" ? What happens when he turns 65 is of no consequence to him now.
And what if he is 65 now ? What does age have to do with instruction. What are you going to do ? Tell him to stop aging ?
The correct is OBVIOUSLY D.
That is something that applies to all ages and is behavior that the patient can change, thus the whole point of teaching.
3. You are teaching a patient about ways to induce sleep. You will be sure to teach him that...
a. a cup of warm, regular tea before bed will help him sleep.
b. a glass of red wine promotes deep and REM sleep
c. as you age, the length and quality of REM and deep sleep decrease
d. physical activity prevents falling asleep
that is what referred pain is. it starts one place and moves to another or the problem may be in a certain area but you feel it in another.
no one defines referred pain as "pain that starts in one place, but then moves to another"
referred pain is your 2nd definition, " problem may be in a certain area but you feel it in another"
the teacher is wrong
if I sprain my ankle, and then an hour later my shoulder hurts, that is not referred pain.
If I slam the car door on my finger and 3 hours later I get a tooth ache, that is not referred pain.
the question is stupid
Sometimes obesity is not a lifestyle choice but a medical condition. Some people just can't metabolize those french fries better than others.
then don't eat the french fries
its a choice
don't do it
if you know you're fat, then stop eating french fries
that IS a lifestyle choice, not a medical condition
healthstar, BSN, RN
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Eating unhealthy foods, too much food and not working out all these are life styles which eventually lead to obesity. It makes sense to me.