Am I a coward for going on FMLA due to COVID?

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Hello everyone. I am extremely conflicted in this decision. I work in an ICU which is now basically a COVID unit, on top of the PCU (the designated COVID unit) which we get pulled to regularly. It's no surprise there is an incomprehensible shortage of PPE, and shockingly bad backpedaling and safety recommendations from the CDC that had they made even 4 months ago would have cause a national uproar.

I have asthma and chronic bronchitis. Any little chest cold turns into full blown bronchitis for me. My girlfriend (we don't live together) has respiratory issues that require monthly injections of an immunosuppressant to manage. We haven't seen each other for almost a month now. Last week at this time, we had 1-2 two COVID patients.. at this point, all critical care units are overflowing and the safety precautions are terrible as they are everywhere else. The testing is awful with 4-6 day turnaround time. We get one N95 per shift no matter how many patients. They've increased nurse to patient ratio, which makes the one N95 even more unsafe. We can only wear it if the patient is undergoing aerosol producing procedures/treatments, otherwise, a standard surgical mask. I failed the fit test anyway. RN's are told to come in if exposed but asymptomatic, and if we are exposed to a positive patient, we only get tested if symptomatic. We have PAPRs but can only be used with positive patients due to lack of filter supply, but we won't know if they are positive until almost a week. To this day, I don't think they've been used yet. So by the time we CAN use them, it's pointless.. we've already been exposed. We are seeing younger patients with only a history of asthma or no real history crashing and burning.. going into ARDS and being intubated and placed in rotoprone beds. That's what scares me the most. Otherwise young healthy patients on the brink of death.

I really like my unit. I respect my manager, and my team, but I just don't feel safe and the anxiety is crushing. The healthcare system in general failed us. I feel it's not a matter of if but WHEN I will get this, and given my respiratory issues, will it take me out, or just hit me hard enough to cause permanent lung damage. That said, I was going to put my two weeks in but girlfriend suggested FMLA to buy some time to think about it.

I feel like I'm deserting my team when needed most. But I also didn't sign up to risk my life due to a comedy of errors, oversight, indifference, and/or just the never ending need for more profit by the powers that be. I feel what I'm doing is the logical, right, and safe move but can't get over this feeling of cowardliness and letting everyone down for doing it. However other times I feel I am being strong for giving up a well paying job with benefits for my physical/mental health and not allowing them to do me this way. Just looking for opinions one way or the other. Thank you and stay safe out there.

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On 3/30/2020 at 1:37 PM, barcode120x said:

I wouldn't call you a coward, but I would say you should think about during your part as a nurse in the crisis. With the craziness of the spread, there's a decent chance you'll get covid even if you don't work. We all signed up knowing the risks.

Nobody signed up to work without proper PPE. Every single hospital in this country should have had a pandemic emergency plan that included enough PPE to get every doctor and nurse through the crisis.

Scientists have been warning of global pandemic for over a decade. The fact that administrators chose to put profits over people puts this on THEIR shoulders.

Specializes in Hospital Employee Health.
20 minutes ago, lifelearningrn said:

Nobody signed up to work without proper PPE. Every single hospital in this country should have had a pandemic emergency plan that included enough PPE to get every doctor and nurse through the crisis.

Scientists have been warning of global pandemic for over a decade. The fact that administrators chose to put profits over people puts this on THEIR shoulders.

No not at all!

Specializes in Hospital Employee Health.

Meant to reply above. You should not feel guilty. Hospital emergency planners should feel guilty. Public health disaster planning workers should feel guilty. Some politicians should feel guilty. We are 100% willing to show up and do our jobs "we signed up for" as long as we can be reasonably safe and protected....as long as we don't have to worry about bringing this home to our families.

Specializes in ICU.

Couldn't agree more. It’s the “save some today, (or in the case of business, profit more) and pay 10x more down the road.. hopefully on someone else's watch” method. We’ve lived in a “pass the buck” system far too long. But that’s just how business is done, right? It Never... Works... Out... So irresponsibly and dangerously short sighted. And with that it’s OUR decision to make.. paying bills/health insurance or the health/life/death of ourselves and loved ones. If left to management to choose, they’ll throw us to the wolves every time as they are now.
All the rah rah self advocacy, self care, we respect and value you, “dont come in sick as to not infect coworkers and patients” nonsense they preached goes out the window. I understand fully the situation, and I don’t envy where management and administration is with this. This affects everyone, by no means just the frontline. But those not ON the frontline won’t be the ones on a ventilator or worse due to lack of adequate protection equipment and protocols. We all have a choice to make. There is no right or wrong. They’re both right and wrong for different reasons.

Just an update, they’re fighting me tooth and nail on it.

On 3/29/2020 at 10:52 PM, ML1376 said:

Hello everyone. I am extremely conflicted in this decision. I work in an ICU which is now basically a COVID unit, on top of the PCU (the designated COVID unit) which we get pulled to regularly. It's no surprise there is an incomprehensible shortage of PPE, and shockingly bad backpedaling and safety recommendations from the CDC that had they made even 4 months ago would have cause a national uproar.

I have asthma and chronic bronchitis. Any little chest cold turns into full blown bronchitis for me. My girlfriend (we don't live together) has respiratory issues that require monthly injections of an immunosuppressant to manage. We haven't seen each other for almost a month now. Last week at this time, we had 1-2 two COVID patients.. at this point, all critical care units are overflowing and the safety precautions are terrible as they are everywhere else. The testing is awful with 4-6 day turnaround time. We get one N95 per shift no matter how many patients. They've increased nurse to patient ratio, which makes the one N95 even more unsafe. We can only wear it if the patient is undergoing aerosol producing procedures/treatments, otherwise, a standard surgical mask. I failed the fit test anyway. RN's are told to come in if exposed but asymptomatic, and if we are exposed to a positive patient, we only get tested if symptomatic. We have PAPRs but can only be used with positive patients due to lack of filter supply, but we won't know if they are positive until almost a week. To this day, I don't think they've been used yet. So by the time we CAN use them, it's pointless.. we've already been exposed. We are seeing younger patients with only a history of asthma or no real history crashing and burning.. going into ARDS and being intubated and placed in rotoprone beds. That's what scares me the most. Otherwise young healthy patients on the brink of death.

I really like my unit. I respect my manager, and my team, but I just don't feel safe and the anxiety is crushing. The healthcare system in general failed us. I feel it's not a matter of if but WHEN I will get this, and given my respiratory issues, will it take me out, or just hit me hard enough to cause permanent lung damage. That said, I was going to put my two weeks in but girlfriend suggested FMLA to buy some time to think about it.

I feel like I'm deserting my team when needed most. But I also didn't sign up to risk my life due to a comedy of errors, oversight, indifference, and/or just the never ending need for more profit by the powers that be. I feel what I'm doing is the logical, right, and safe move but can't get over this feeling of cowardliness and letting everyone down for doing it. However other times I feel I am being strong for giving up a well paying job with benefits for my physical/mental health and not allowing them to do me this way. Just looking for opinions one way or the other. Thank you and stay safe out there.

You can’t help anyone if you’re dead. Given your health history I don’t blame you. I have chronic lung problems and autoimmune disorders. There is no way in hell I would go back to acute care right now. I really respect those who can do it but I have a young child and family members also with Comoros conditions. I have to think about what would happen to them too. My husband works in healthcare too-not direct patients but the equipment. He does his best to protect himself but who knows if it’s enough. Stay safe.

Specializes in Hospital Employee Health.

Who is fighting you tooth and nail?

Specializes in Hospital Employee Health.

Healthcare workers signed up to apply what they learned in school as well as their natural compassion, and they are doing that. IF their ability to do this is interrupted by errors others made (ie, failure to plan ahead with enough supplies/staff for a pandemic that experts have warned about for years) that is ON the others. You need to remove the guilt part because what is happening now is out of your control. You can feel sad. You can feel despair and fear, but not one single healthcare worker needs to burden themselves further with any feeling of guilt. Do not allow others to guilt or shame you.

Specializes in ICU.

Thank you for that. It’s hard to keep logic and sound thinking at the forefront with this. And to the other poster, my employer is fighting FMLA

Specializes in Hospital Employee Health.

I am sorry they are fighting FMLA. Have you tried to get a statement from your PCP that presenting to work places you in direct harm (legal term) and that for medical reasons, you should not have direct patient contact? Tell them you are absolutely willing to work from home or in some setting in which your safety can be maintained. Put it in writing. I think if worst comes to worse, let them fire you because I think then you can apply for unemployment. (not sure on that). I think we are going to have to make many tough decisions ahead, and for some that will include leaving the job with not much safety net. The good news is you are going to be in HUGE demand once this all blows over, and it will be - sooner or later, but hopefully sooner

If I qualified for FMLA I would absolutely do this. I’ve been working on my unit for a little less than 6 months, and recently found out I’m 8 weeks pregnant. I’m in a CVICU, but it’s not uncommon for us to get ICU overflow. And I know with Covid it’s only a matter of time before we are overwhelmed. With the lack of knowledge/research regarding first trimester and covid I’m considering just leaving bedside temporarily. It’s not worth my baby’s health to continue to work especially with the lack of PPE. My only concerning is finding a job once my baby is born and older. Because my employer is the largest in my area with few options aside from them, and I don’t want to be blacklisted for quitting during a “crisis”

Specializes in Tele, OB, public health.

I would just like to make a plug for unions. There may not be union hospitals in your area, but if there are and anyone on this thread is not union, go to work there and never look back.

Or consider organizing your hospital. After ten years in nursing, I refuse to even interview at non-union hospitals.

four years ago when I was pregnant with my son, I had horrific nausea and vomiting. At the time I was working 12 hour night shifts. After one particularly rough day of no sleep, I called my manager and said I just couldn't do it anymore, that I needed a few weeks off to get it under control.

Because I have a kick-*** union, She had no choice but to say yes- I also had five days to get the docs note verifying my medical condition, during which I was allowed to stay out. I was granted three weeks of FMLA, paid

It blows my mind that there are still non-union hospitals anywhere.

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