There is another alternative for students that fail at traditional nursing schools that still have the desire to become a registered nurse. I've noticed that once students are unsuccessful in a traditional setting, they give up hope and end their pursuit.
However, many students ignore the fact that there are other paths to obtaining their degree such as attending schools such as Excelsior. I myself, chose to take this route although I've never failed at a traditional nursing school and passed my NCLEX exam the first time.
Taking this route requires a lot of discipline, but the quote is still relevant "anything worth having never comes easy". So before you give up and throw in the towel please consider other options.
You are so right grntea,however,the students I had in mind were students that have the intellect and necessary insight to become nurses but tripped up on their initial encounter with the nursing world.In fact,you are dead wrong about motivation though,being a male i've played several sports ,and trust me I have witnessed many teams that were more talented and had superior skills lose to a less talented yet eager team. You hear what im saying,but you can't feel it,sometimes determination outweighs skill(referring to academics)some of the nurses that you know personally i'm sure needed a second chance to prove themselves.
1) Women play individual and team sports too (perhaps you've heard), so don't play the "I'm a guy" card too hard on that one. :)
2) We know exactly how far you can go on eager and less talent-- we're Patriots fans :)
3) I do feel it, but there is a limit to how far you can go with determination. I mean, I would dearly love to sing at Carnegie Hall and I have a pretty decent voice, but even with superior work ethic, energy, and teaching I probably won't ever be much better than Margaret Truman as a concert vocalist. There's a baseline for skills / intellect that must be met in pretty much any endeavor, nursing school included.
You are so right grntea,however,the students I had in mind were students that have the intellect and necessary insight to become nurses but tripped up on their initial encounter with the nursing world.In fact,you are dead wrong about motivation though,being a male i've played several sports ,and trust me I have witnessed many teams that were more talented and had superior skills lose to a less talented yet eager team. You hear what im saying,but you can't feel it,sometimes determination outweighs skill(referring to academics)some of the nurses that you know personally i'm sure needed a second chance to prove themselves.
It doesn't matter how "eager " you are to be a nurse.Eagerness can't overcome a lack of skill or intelligence.
And managers loom at where you go to school. I know of bosses that won't hire from for profit schools because the caliber of staff from these schools is not what it needs to be.
That's is very true. I don't even know why this country allows such programs. The quality of the graduates are not up to par. Even this fast lane programs can be quite dangerous. Yes they can pass school and may even pass boards but what about the kind quality of care they will provide . Lots of people die from nurse errors.
Speaking from personal experience I got accepted to an ASN program that was very rigorous which weeds their students out the first semester. Around 30 out of 60 failed and I was one of them that received a "D". I was eligible to retrack back into the program but I decided to build my gpa back up and go for my BSN. I took my failure as a learning experience. I practiced critical thinking questions like crazy.I got accepted to a catholic university and now I am in the program I grasp concepts of nursing that I did not see before. I am also doing much better on my test. I am thankful for another opportunity :-)
Thank you so much for posting,you are the perfect example of what i've been trying to get our fellow readers to visualize.
Too many people whine that the bar is too high the teachers are too tough, the tests are too hard, the rules are too strict.... After all this is their dreeeeeaaaammmmmm so they should get what they want. They don't offer alternatives to people who can't hack med school.[/quote']
Specializes in Critical Care, ED, Cath lab, CTPAC,Trauma.
Thank you so much for posting,you are the perfect example of what i've been trying to get our fellow readers to visualize.
The fact is...while there are alternative out there not all states will accept that schooling. Even though you are licensed in one state another state does NOT have to approved your schooling to obtain licensure.
Excelsior is a perfect example and California is a state you will not be able to obtain licensure due to concurrency issues.
By the way... I saw Micheal Jordan before he was "MICHEAL JORDAN" It would be a complete moron to not see that he had special talent. He wasn't cut from his 8th grade team it was 10th grade he struggled was cut from varsity and placed on the JV team, he returned to varsity after months of hard work to be reselected for the team.
If you want to win an argument use the facts...it's what nursing is all about....collecting all the factual data to decide the most appropriate intervention using the best rationale for the best patient outcome.
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Neither does teaching!!!