Almost fired today

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I have been working ICU for 8 months straight out of school. Lets not make tjis into a "new nurses should not go into ICU" thred please, that wont help me.I was called last night and told not to come in this morning to the unit. Instead I should goto nursing services and meet with my manager and her manager. Yikes.

1-Last Friday I admittedly made an error (I work ICU). A Patient was admitted from the floor and i wrote an order for ativan 1 mg q 3 hrs, it should have been PRN, i forgot to write PRN. I reported off to the night nurse about the ativan helping with pain/agitation and he realized not to give that much. The patient got several doses 8 hours apart, but the doc flipped when he saw how the order was written

2- Several weeks ago, I had an extremely agitated patient who was also 350lbs. There was an order for haldol 2 mg ivp prn, no time constraint. The nurse who gave me report said she had been moaning all night and nthing could be done, and that she had proabl;y not slept in days and her solution was to close the glass door so she couldnt hear the pt moan. I felt this to be NOT helpful to the pt. I ended up giving some 70 mg of haldol over the 12 hour shift. I looked up the safe dosage and that falls within the safe dose. Some books say 5 mg every half hour, some say 10 mg, then double until you get the desired effect every half hour stopping at 50mg. At no point did the patient have decreased resp[irations or drop her blood pressure. She fell asleep for a few hours but thats it, all in all even that much haldol was not that effective. That was several weeks ago and I guess they were reviewing the MAR and somone flipped. I also asked the other nurses on the unit, including the charge if it were ok that i give that much and noone said anything other then they had not given that much before but it didnt violate the order or the corecct safe doasge. Also They were upset that I didnt question the order for not havinga time constraint, which i will do in the future.

Fallout- Luckily I didnt get fired but now I must verify ALL medications with the charge nurse before I give them. "charge nurse, can i hang some vanc?" crap... and I am not allowed to work overtime because they felt I have worked too much and was too tired. The crazy thing is I am helping THEM out and they cut my overtime completely!!! I am thinking I will find a new job and put my two weeks in ASAP

Thougts anyone?

Good lord what a thread!

NP, you are totally missing the point. Those drug parameters you keep talking about are for patients have severe psychotic episodes NOT moaning in ICU.

If you tried to defend your actions in a court of law the prosecutor would have a field day with you. Dont you realize that?

It's really too bad that you cant be objective about yourself and be accountable for your actions. Nursing is all about accountability. That isnt something that should come with time and experience either. That is something you have to have from day one of your career.

Specializes in Pediatrics (Burn ICU, CVICU).

edited because I don't have anything nice to say.

Specializes in Pediatrics (Burn ICU, CVICU).

I didn't read this whole thread, but I think you should keep your job, learn from your mistakes and move on.

:uhoh21:

I know that nurses always should know safe ranges on meds, but I thought that the drugs books give that information for the doctor to make those decisions to up a dosage. Just because a book says the upper limit on a safe range for a drug is such and such doesn't mean that I, as a nurse, can go that high on administering a med.

Isn't that practicing medicine without a license?

When I look something up in a book, I'm just looking to be sure the doctor is within the safe range for the order he wrote....not for me to take it upon myself to give more med.

Am I wrong on this, or is it within a nurse's scope of practice to do that?

Personally, I couldn't do it, no matter how much literature you come up with. The doctor needs to make those decisions.

Specializes in Onc/Hem, School/Community.
:uhoh21:

I know that nurses always should know safe ranges on meds, but I thought that the drugs books give that information for the doctor to make those decisions to up a dosage. Just because a book says the upper limit on a safe range for a drug is such and such doesn't mean that I, as a nurse, can go that high on administering a med.

Isn't that practicing medicine without a license?

When I look something up in a book, I'm just looking to be sure the doctor is within the safe range for the order he wrote....not for me to take it upon myself to give more med.

Am I wrong on this, or is it within a nurse's scope of practice to do that?

Great question! As a student, I would love to hear some responses.:rolleyes:

Specializes in Geriatrics/Oncology/Psych/College Health.

I would ask the last question be put in a new thread without the baggage of this one. :) Going to close this for now as there is more than enough constructive response to give lots of food for thought as to the OP's question. Thank you.

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