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allnurses Ebola Preparedness Survey Makes the News.


Specializes in Peds, Med-Surg, Disaster Nsg, Parish Nsg.

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As nurses we have an obligation to refuse to care for patients we have not been adequately trained to take care of. This is a public health issue. Until we are properly trained up to established standards. Remember the CDC puts out recommendations. Those recommendations are then used by the front line experts to develop standards. We need to look to those who have been managing this disease for decades. Aid group has set the gold standard on Ebola safety - LA Times

This is the proven method to contain this deadly contagious disease. Until we are trained in this standard how can we protect ourselves families and the general public.

I think as healthcare workers we need to not only think about our nursing staff, but all the workers that need to be educated. Yes, we are at the bedside, but there are lab personnel, therapists, and housekeeping that can also be exposed. Mr. Duncan exposed over 70 people while he was hospitalized, that would devastate our critical access hospital.

Thank you for the article. It was very informative. My heart goes out to those people that has been affected by Ebola...especially, those doctors, nurses, volunteers, etc who is doing everything to combat the disease are amazing human beings.

I am reading The Hot Zone now , highly recommend it. Really good story and information!

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Of course LPN's are nurses. I was one for four years prior to my ADN.

I only mentioned the ADN vs BSN because there are 2,196.5 posts on the subject on AN.

It's nice to see them disappear for awhile.

Add I said, we are ALL in this together

No worries, with all the Medicare changes and budget cuts hospitals are going to be desperate for LPN's to save money. I have been fortunate to work on a med/surg tele unit (where I have more then proved myself through knowledge, experience and dependability,) where they depend on and support me, I have been charge nurse and when really desperate have stepped in as supervisor, and now am moving to wound care department. I still want to finish school but have never really been made to feel less as a nurse, my co- workers constantly use me as a knowledge resource and I am so grateful for them!!!!

Please don't forget to add LPN into that. I tried defending nurses & advocating for more education in comments on boards (CNN, huffington post etc) and I was told to "Shut up because I'm only a Little Pretend Nurse and I was not allowed to speak as a nurse because I wasn't a ®eal (N)urse"

- It honestly really hurt my feelings (I know I need a thicker skin) but it stung. And quite a few people agreed with the person who said that. I went to an accredited school, graduated with great grades,and received a practical nursing diploma. In September I took the nclex, passed and received my nursing license from the N.Y state BON. My amazing RN teacher(s) always drilled into our head not to be bullied by the above statements (if anything we were "low paid nurses") but far from "pretend", and they taught us a curriculum that is still unmatched by any other LPN program.

-I'm sorry, for getting carried away, I know this is way bigger than my feeling insulted. However, please don't forget about us too. We support you, and I wish and was hoping all the nurses could come together and unite right now.

I've worked along side many LPNs/LVNs throughout my career. Yes, they are nurses. I'm sorry you were treated this way. Your voice counts. Keep talking. Most likely they didn't like what you had to say so they found any way they could to discredit you. Try not to take it personally but realize that what nurses collectively have to say is not very popular or reassuring right now. Don't allow them to quiet your voice. Keep speaking up for what is right.

Don't get fooled into thinking your hospital is prepared if they are going off of CDC recommended guidelines.

I put this together from information I gathered from the CDC and their recommended precautions to prevent transmission of Ebola is contradictory.

Currently, the CDC only is recommending to front-line health-care workers such as NURSES personal protective equipment for EBOLA from the BSL – Level 2 – for microbes that pose a “moderate risk” yet classify Ebola as a BSL – Level 4 – a toxins that is exotic and frequently fatal and has no treatment or vaccine, thus advising the wearing of full body, air-supplied, positive pressure suits – basically – a hazmat suit.

Additionally, for potential and known Ebola victims, the CDC only recommends a single patient room (containing a private bathroom) with the door closed and a log of all persons entering the patient's room for our front-line staff, no dedicated supply and exhaust air, or use of vacuum lines and decontamination systems. Is this appropriate? Should more precautions be taken/recommended? Are the BSL Level 2 protected nurses who became infected with Eboa in the United States this past week a wakeup call that the current CDC recommended Level 2 precautions are not enough?

Why is the CDC only recommending BSL – Level 2 precautions to its frontline nurses and health-care professionals? Is it really fair to be blaming nurses for a breach in protocol when the protocol recommendations may be insufficient and never breached at all?

Please see the following PDF I put together about the above information detailed further with information taken from the CDC website.


GadgetRN71, ASN, RN

Specializes in Operating Room. Has 15 years experience.

I'm proud that nurses are finally supporting each other and letting the backstabbing, ADN vs BSN, and "my unit is cooler than your unit" mentality take a backseat. It's about time. Let's see what movement we can get going and keep going. It doesn't matter if a nurse is an ADN versus a BSN, or what school they went to or where they work. We are all in this together because it's all we have. The news media and facilities are quick to blame the nurse. Well, lets get the TRUTH out there.

Rant over..

Agreed, and I want all hospital workers who may come into direct contact with the patient or his/her bodily fluids protected.

herring_RN, ASN, BSN

Specializes in Critical care, tele, Medical-Surgical. Has 49 years experience.

It's about time nurses are respected and regarded as having a powerful impact on the health and safety of our country ~ Hopefully, now, nurses will have the opportunity to participate in a collaborative global care plan (ha!)

To unite registered nurses & health care workers worldwide to fight austerity & attacks to our professions, our communities & our environment.



Specializes in Rehab, Med/Surg. Has 1 1/2 years experience.

Thank you herring_RN for those links! Being a nurse here in Texas is hard and it's a shame that there are no unions in our state. As a new nurse (almost at my 2nd year), I've learned real fast what can happen if you speak your mind or stand up for what is morally right versus what is best for business and patient satisfaction. I feel it cost me my first job deep down. So sad, but so inspiring for me at the same time ~ just not sure where to start. Right now, I'm just keeping my head down, my mouth shut and do my job well with compassion. I'm still blown away that we haven't received even an email addressing anything whatsoever (except reminders to ask about travel with admissions...) ~ and I live 80 miles from Dallas! There is a lot of focus on First Responders and how they're prepared though... but still... unbelievable! I'm so glad I've been doing a ton of research and educating myself as much as possible ~ it's more of the general population here that concerns me if anything...