After all "that", I advised my wife to turn down MICU/ACC position today.

[Roland]

Here's why:

1. First and foremost she was told that she would get up to three clients straight off orientation. This is an ACC/MICU dealing mostly in trauma patients at a busy level one trauma center in a major metropolitan area.

2. Training/orientation would consist of the following:

a. First six weeks would be two days a week in the classroom with an additional two twelve hour shifts working on the floor with a preceptor.

b. The next six weeks would have no classroom and would involve three twelves along with a preceptor.

c. The final six weeks would have no preceptor, but she would have a so called "mentor" with whom she could consult. At this point she could be assigned up to three clients. Although, they say she would never have more than one "critical" client with the other two being so called "progressive" (not sure what the criteria is for progressive since they are still to sick for the PCU or the floor). ACLS and PALS would not be offered during this stage of her training unless she did these classes above and beyond the above mentioned shifts.

d. Out of approximately 110 nurses about 15 are travel/agency, 10 are new nurses, and two SNES.

e. It would be night shift, and she wouldn't be with the same nurses most of the time.

f. There is a new manager.

On the up side the exiting manager did say that they've had many successful CRNA applicants out of this ICU. My analysis is that this may simply be "too acute" an environment for her at this point in her career.

[Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN]

Where most of us are coming from right now, he has been pushing and pushing for his wife to get an ICU position to help her prepare for a CRNA program. There have been multiple posts about her not getting an offer, then she finally gets one, at a place that would give her the experience that she needs, and he advises her not to take it. Funny thing is that she is already out of school and working. We always hear of the decisions that he has made for her, never that they discussed it and this is what they came up.

In your relationship, you discuss things..............we only here from him of what he advises his wife to do. And we never hear from her.

Took the words out of my mouth. :)

[Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN]

If she needs our input, she needs to come here and ask for herself...otherwise all we get is "hearsay" and we cannot form a valid opinion on the basis of hearsay.

And that's what bugged me the most.

[caroladybelle, BSN, RN]

I'm not concerned about him.

?????him - Tweety's spouse or Roland???????

[Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN]

?????him - Tweety's spouse or Roland???????

I didn't mean Tweety or spouse-of-Tweety!!! lol

[suzanne4, RN]

I just hope that you are not this opinionated when you begin work, or you will have difficulties right from the beginning.

[RoxanRN]

I just hope that you are not this opinionated when you begin work, or you will have difficulties right from the beginning.

To whom is this directed?

[suzanne4, RN]

To whom is this directed?

Roland, of course! :)

This has been ongoing for moe than a year or so, as you can probably read from the above posts on this thread.

[Roland]

If I report my "first hand" conversations and observations that is not considered heresay. In addition, a large percentage (perhaps a majority) of the posts on this website could be considered heresay (not that, that matters since this isn't a court of law). Also, my wife specifically gave me permission to ask these questions on this forum in regard to her situation. Yes, I am often opinionated and it has sometimes caused me problems at work and school. I usually restrain my opinions to a venue where they are appropriate or at least won't cause me to get fired. My wife exerts at least as much control in my life, as I do in hers. What if I were Islamic, living in Saudi Arabia and didn't even allow my wife to drive a car, or have a job would you refuse to offer input on that basis?

I just hope that you are not this opinionated when you begin work, or you will have difficulties right from the beginning.

[mattsmom81]

I just hope that you are not this opinionated when you begin work, or you will have difficulties right from the beginning.

Wow you said it...I cannot imagine nurse coworkers being as patient as his wife. :chuckle

[Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN]

Perhaps this is why i'm still single.

[caroladybelle, BSN, RN]

Whenever someone brings up the fact that your wife needs to speak for herself so that we can properly assess the situation and offer educated and appropriate advice, you start into the "What if I were Arabic/Muslim..." schtick.

This is America, not Saudi Arabia, and for some reason, I have my doubts as to you being a follower of conservative Islam. But then I could be wrong.

However, I have worked with believers of Islam (yes, me) and the issue would be moot. Those you speak of generally do not let their female relatives leave the house unescorted, seek an American education, and would definitely not permit them work as a nurse/CRNA in a gender integrated facility. They would not be discuss their lives on the Internet with or without their consent as it would be unseemingly. And Believers in Islam that would not permit their wives to use the Internet, would not deign to enter a female dominated BB, such as this one to discuss anything as our opinions would be unimportant to such a decision.

And quite bluntly, if conservative male believer in Islam were to come here and ask an opinion of me, regarding his wife's employment, I would ask to speak to her...as it is HER life, HER situation, HER career, that is in question. And while it does affect both of them, she is the one primarily affected by the decision and her input matters most.

Lacking her input would be like doing a physical assessment on a patient without any access to the actual patient or receiving any input whatsoever from the patient. And, no, secondhand input is not adequate.

[Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN]

if I were Islamic, living in Saudi Arabia and didn't even allow my wife to drive a car, or have a job would you refuse to offer input on that basis?

Ok, we're really reaching here......