Affinity and KNAP

Short LPN · Sep 3, 2019

I did KNAP for 3 years and I made it through with flying colors had one dilute which caused me to get a blood test but that was literally cause I was hydrating and just over did it. DO NOT DRINK A DROP OF ALCOHOL. I was tempted on a few occasions to have a drink with dinner but so glad I never have in to that cause I could of been caught. Fly under the radar with these people and you will be fine. Make sure you turn in alllll your paper work on time, not even 1 second late. Check in daily, sometimes I would check in several times daily cause I would question whether I checked in or not. I only missed one check in for 3 yrs and lucked out cause on that day I was not selected for testing but had I been it would of been bad. Do exactly what they say to do and bow down to them and soon it will be all over. I struggled at the beginning with “oh what did I get myself into”...”why me” blah blah blah. My story is unique as I am sure most people’s are who are in this program. Just bottom line DO NOT TAKE ANY CHANCES...not worth it. The time in this program seems like forever but as soon as your done it will all be a distant memory and you can burn all the paperwork associated with this program other than your “letter of release” finalization paper. Also you have to be sure to know when the KNAP board meetings are so you can submit your requests to them in time such as key restriction lifts, travel (if you do any traveling)...I personally didn’t...and also you have to request to be released from the program as well which is dumbbb but make sure you do all these requests way in advance or else. Good luck and just know it can be done and you can get through it. There’s my 2 cents.

Short LPN · Sep 3, 2019

Also they can test you as many times as they want and as close together as they want. Can’t remember specifics but at one point I had been tested like 3 times in a month, but USUALLY it was once a month. But don’t bank on it being once monthly as it could be more if you get a dilute or I even got retested a few times for being dehydrated. My urine was too concentrated. There is a happy medium you can my be too hydrated or too dehydrated. It’s freakin nuts, I swear. But like I said before...it’s do-able. You can make it through IF you do it exactly right and take no and I mean not one chance. I would be sick and would not dare take any OTC meds. Go to the doc and get prescription meds only.

Stacy Johnson · Nov 30, 2019

So I lift got a dilute test..I recieved a letter stating they will do more in depth test>..does any1 know what kind of test? Also for how long? Will I ever go back to standard test? Is this test more money?

Short LPN · Dec 2, 2019

Yes when you get a dilute i believe they will do a blood test and it will be more money.

But then your next test given the blood test is negative will w back to normal urine screens

Stacy Johnson · Dec 4, 2019

What all does the blood test test for and how far back does it go..I got selected for a special test and its 130!! Plus 40.50 for them to do it smh!!

Short LPN · Dec 5, 2019

It will test for everything under the sun and unsure of how long it goes back for...google Peth test and maybe that will give you more info.

Doe A Deer · Jan 13, 2020

This info is from 2012 and I don’t think ALL $$ is accurate, but I’d be surprised if the panels and what they’re testing have changed much (if at all).

Doe A Deer · Jan 13, 2020

I’m fairly confident what they’re testing for with A 763829 is one of these two panels (difference between the two is oxy):

catsmeow1972, BSN, RN · Jan 13, 2020

So if I’m reading this correctly....anyone who is an affinity client is getting charged *double!* the amount for the standard testing for all the usual things. Hmmmm...not shocking... Given that I recall being told there was a form that i could use to apply for reimbursement from my insurance...a lie, of course. Insurance isn’t going to pay for something not prescribed by a doctor and for which they are not given a CPT code for. So no, not reimbursable. Also, if by some miracle they did, I am reasonably sure that it would be for far far less than the participant had to shell out up front.

Yet another confirmation that these programs are all about the money...yours going to them. Very sad, indeed.

Doe A Deer · Jan 13, 2020

I pay $45 for A 763829 at LabCorp as listed by the description. I’ve had to do another one and it was like $5 more that what was listed on that sheet but definitely not double.

dirtyhippiegirl, BSN, RN · Jan 15, 2020

On 1/13/2020 at 11:14 AM, catsmeow1972 said:
So if I’m reading this correctly....anyone who is an affinity client is getting charged *double!* the amount for the standard testing for all the usual things. Hmmmm...not shocking... Given that I recall being told there was a form that i could use to apply for reimbursement from my insurance...a lie, of course. Insurance isn’t going to pay for something not prescribed by a doctor and for which they are not given a CPT code for. So no, not reimbursable. Also, if by some miracle they did, I am reasonably sure that it would be for far far less than the participant had to shell out up front.
Yet another confirmation that these programs are all about the money...yours going to them. Very sad, indeed.

No. I don't know what the Affinity test is but I was just charged $45 for the A-panel when I was in KNAP.

catsmeow1972, BSN, RN · Jan 15, 2020

Affinity being one of the major “3rd party” testing arms for these programs, it does not shock me that 1) it’s not easily determined exactly what you’re being tested for (which is fine given that just about everything except Tylenol is verboten- I exaggerate a little, but still) and 2) I suspect that if ones drills down enough, one might find that there are some of the same names among those with ownership interest in rehabs and/or background with these programs and the testing companies. This whole thing is a nice little profit generating racket for those with zero scruples.

That screenshot (at least the way I read it) seems to say that there is one price for most and another larger or additional charge if you are unfortunate enough to be an affinity client.

Hell, after the last 6+ years?? Nothing bizarre about any of this should be any great shock.