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This is exactly how I feel each time I log into the International Forum. I don't feel welcome as a foreign born nurse. I don't feel respected as a minority in this country. All I feel is the hatred and insults thrown at us simply because we are not Americans.

So let's talk about it, since threads were locked and posts were deleted because they were "out of the topic" hence we could not freely express and justify how we feel about the criticisms on foreign born and/or foreign trained nurses. Each and every time I read something that "put down" certain minorities, it makes me feel sick to my stomach. Being discriminated all my life, I truly understand how other foreign nurses, especially the Filipino nurses, feel. No, you simply won't understand if you were not in our shoes.

Every one has his/her point of view on certain issues, but attacking, criticizing and (worst) making generalizations of other races, cultures and beliefs is just not right, insensitive and ethnocentric. Yes, we are immigrants, but you don't have to yell it to our face. The US would not have prosper if not for the immigrants. Don't forget your family or ancestors were once immigrants as well, unless you are Native Americans. So you have no rights to ask us get out if we are legally here, unless this is your native land. Remember, America is the land of opportunity that were built through slavery from Africa and Asia.

I wonder sometimes, how could you be a professional nurse if you are culturally insensitive? How could you offer the best care if all you think is your own self and your own beliefs, and disregard other culture and belief systems? I see nurses here with 30 plus years of experience do not practice the basic fundamental of nursing. Maybe they should go back to square one and learn it from Potter and Perry.

This IS an International forum. This forum is for every one regardless of age, gender, color, etc. If you say something culturally insensitive in other forum, maybe we will think that you are just plain stupid or has never been out of the country. But, if you are persistently saying something that insult and disgrace other cultures, races, nationality and etc, I think something should be done by the moderators...unless the moderators themselves are not sensitive enough on this issue as well.

Well, Merry Christmas everyone (no, I'm not Christian...but I know many are here) and thank you for listening.

Sure seems like a lot of anecdotal evidence to me, and quite limited, at that.

I don't remember anyone saying that their experience translated to an entire nation.

MauiBoy: you just joined the board, so you missed most of the drama that has led up to these threads. You can search the Canadian and Phillipines Forums for the material. I simply don't have time between work, kids, and my life.

The blurbs at the top of each post no longer contain the location of the nurse. That is where posters used to say USA, UK, neverneverland, or whatever. I guess the redesign of the board did away with it.

The red banner that appears on the top of many forums directing questions to the international area was also a result of the drama.

People just got tired and frustrated at multiple posts on a daily basis wanting the same question answered and yes, many nurses in the UK, Australia, Canada, and other Commonwealth countries got more than a little frustrated with nurses wondering why on earth the NCLEX for the US wasn't accepted in other parts of the world. These countries aren't consolation destinations for nurses impacted in their homelands due to the US immigration freeze.

Specializes in ER.
Thanks for the clarification on the exams....I'm not doubting what you're telling me, but I really do have hard with this because I see very poor English skills when they do come here and work in the US...

That is one of the most difficult/frustrating things I see as well. When my grandmother was in the hospital here in Dallas a few months ago, I thought we were going to need to call in a translator. Her nurse was NOT filipino btw, but of middle eastern descent, and nobody could understand her. For my 80 something year old grandmother, it made her feel like she was not understood either, and it left her feeling like the care she received was not good just because of poor communication/english skills. In my nursing class, we had several foreigners that came in on student visas. They obviously passed the english tests, but they couldn't understand the lectures and most failed out (a couple made it out of the program, as scary as that was). I do believe the language skills need to be assessed more thoroughly as communication is a HUGE part of nursing in general.

Yang

Specializes in CTICU.
...At this point retrogression is necessary due to what's happening in the economy here right now...

What are you talking about? Retrogression of the visa categories has exactly ZERO to do with the current economic issues. They were retrogressed well before any of the recent events unfolded.

I can read just fine, thank you. So you're "all for immigration" and "glad" about retrogression....? That makes no sense.

Personally, I don't care what you and others like you have to say. I am well able to defend myself. I DO feel sorry for the international nurses who feel too intimidated to post or ask their questions in this forum because of certain bullies.

After reading all this, the US needs a better process for screening internationally trained nurses. Australia has a bridging program which could be a model for the US. It would make the transition for all the IEN a better process.

Specializes in Advanced Practice, surgery.

Going to close this for 24 hour cooling off period

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