So I am transferring to a different Nursing school. I live in Portland Oregon and I applied to NYU in New York as a transfer (NYU College of Nursing) and GFU Newberg Oregon to regular admissions.
SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE ME SOME GOOD ADVICE ON WHAT SCHOOLS I SHOULD APPLY TO ONTOP OF THESE.. ONES THAT WILL ACCEPT MY CREDITS AND WONT REQUIRE MORE PRE REQS..ANY SCHOOLS> I want to stay in portland but I don't want to start from the beginning.
I wont know till end of May if I got accepted but I applied to regular admissions for both. My current GPA is a 3.2, 3.3. Its confusing bc this is with my nursing classes which NYU allows transfer undergraduate nurses but GFU may just look at my pre reqs. Not Sure...
So b/c I left a nursing program both schools wanna know why. I wrote an 400 word essay to NYU what happened and if you are interested in reading it I can PM you. So GFU didn't ask for an essay but asked I sign a FERPA. The problem is also with their school they have more pre reqs I'd need to do such as communications and sociology bc apparently English and Humanities don't cover those. I feel they just want more money..Also, I spoke with the nursing director at GFU and she asked why I withdrew and I said that I wasn't allowed to retake a course and asked me to sign a FERPA so she can talk to my dean. Now they will go through my record and they will see everything and it scares me and now i'm ruined. GFU's nursing director said if they accept me they will put me in an upper division nursing course if there is room..
What Im worried about is what are my chances of getting in? If this happened to anyone can they tell me what they did and what schools accept nursing transfers like NYU and how to improve my chances of getting in. Im willing to relocate bc I have finished almost all my school with only one semester left and its very frustrating. Which school is better to attend? GFU or NYU.. and can someone tell me of other schools I can apply to? My 5 year mark of pre reqs ends this year and will expire so Im desperate.
I was forced to withdraw from my previous nursing program because I had an issue with being chronically late.. The program is 2 years and I was on my second to last semester when I was forced to withdraw. I was late to clinicals and my instructor sent me home and missing one clinical day leads to failure..(I have issues waking up in the morning and wasn't taking my adderal medication so I became very unmotivated) I still love nursing and know I made a big mistake. I know my actions may not have showed it but I will do anything to fix this because I really do wanna be a nurse.
I want to sue the school honestly because I was told this is how schools make money by not letting students graduate bc after they graduate the student isn't spending anymore money. However, if the student doesn't graduate the school wants them to continue "exploring their options" by changing their major. For example: they implied I should CHANGE MY MAJOR to one of the other caring/healthcare professions offered at Concordia University. I feel since this university is private all they care about is money..However, If I get accepted to another nursing program I may hold back from suing. What do you think a good idea is? Do you think I have a case? Honestly you can read up the stupidest cases online and people win them. What should I do? I most likely wont sue though I don't have the money for a lawyer and hardly a case..
If you want more background info on what I wrote to the Committee for my appeal PM me. I will include the process of my appeal and why I was denied. I appealed to the admissions progressions and honors committee when I attended Concordia University In Portland Oregon.
After I was denied I appealed to the dean and her findings were:
Background and Timeline:
On September 24, 2015 STUDENT was sent home by clinical instructor from NUR 406 clinical for arriving tardy for the third time. On September 29, 2015 STUDENT met with lead instructor NUR 406 regarding a clinical failure in NUR 406 resulting from the students repeated tardiness (15-35 minute tardy) during the clinical experience. STUDENT decided to withdraw from the course to avoid Failure of the course. The student appealed to re-take the course with the Nursing Admission, Progression and Honors Committee. The Nursing Admission, Progression, and Honors Committee ruled to not allow STUDENT to return to the nursing cohort.
January 12, 2016: STUDENT was notified by the Nursing Program Director that the Nursing Admission, Progression, and Honors Committee denied her request to return to the nursing cohort.
January 14, 2016: STUDENT filed an appeal via e-mail with the Dean regarding the decision of the Nursing Admission, Progression, and Honors Committee.
January 15, 2016: I followed up with STUDENT via e-mail to direct her to the student handbook, I outlined the academic grievance process and suggested that she consider having an advocate to help her navigate the process.
January 27, 2016: I met with STUDENT and her mother to hear STUDENT's story and collect information related to her appeal. At the beginning of the meeting STUDENT affirmed that she had reviewed and understood the appeal process outlined in the student handbook (indicated by her check box and signature on the appeal form).
January 28, 2016: At my request STUDENT sent me a reflection of her performance across her entire time in the nursing cohort.
Week of Feb 1-5: I conducted an investigation of the student file and the Nursing Admission, Progression, and Honor Committee Decision Process.
February 11, 2016: I had a second meeting with STUDENT to share with her my findings, to provide her with an opportunity to speak about those findings.
Concern: In this student appeal, STUDENT is appealing the decision of the Nursing Admission, Progression, and Honor Committee for the reasons outlined below:
1. She was not provided a reason for the committee's decision to not allow her to return.
2. She feels that she has gone to counseling and that she now recognizes her errors and that she should be allowed to continue in the program.
Finding of Fact:
1. The Nursing Admission, Progression, and Honor Committee reached the decision to not allow STUDENT to return to the program based on the committee's observation that this was a repeated pattern of behavior of arriving late, not being prepared, and not being present in the moment of learning. This pattern was observed in multiple clinical and didactic courses. Repeated lateness in clinical is inherently a patient safety concern as a student often misses critical patient care information that is presented at the very beginning of a clinical experience.
2. Repeated tardiness and dismissal from NUR 406 is documented.
3. A review of STUDENTS student file reveals that at midterm evaluation in NUR 303 (Fall 2014), NUR 401 (Summer 2015), and NUR 402 (Fall 2015) the student was not meeting competency in professionalism due to repeated tardiness.
4. A review of STUDENTS student file reveals an issue with being tardy in NUR 403 (Fall 2015). The student wrote a remediation plan and was partially compliant to the remediation plan.
5. In addition to tardiness, a review of the student file has documentation of two episodes of falling asleep during clinical and a HIPAA violation (wrote patients PII on assignment).
Decision:
Based on the investigation and discussions with STUDENT the decisions regarding each concern is detailed below:
1. She was not provided a reason for the committee's decision to not allow her to return.
Decision: The Nursing Admissions, Progression, and Honors committee is not required to provide the student with a reason for their denial. However, the investigation revealed that the decision was based on the Committee's recognition that this was a repeated pattern of unprofessionalism (tardiness and lack of preparation prior to coming to clinical and engagement during class and clinical) on the part of the student. This pattern of behavior was well documented in the student file beginning fall of 2014 and growing in frequency in fall of 2015 when the student was failed in a clinical class.
2. She feels that she has gone to counseling and that she recognizes her errors and that she should be allowed to continue in the program.
Decision: Attending counseling is a very positive first step for this student but does not reverse the pattern of behavior on which the Nursing Admissions, Progression, and Honors committee made the decision to not allow the student to return.
Final Decision: Given the overwhelming evidence of a repeated pattern of unprofessional behavior, repeated attempts to help the student remediate this behavior, and the evidence of behaviors which place patient safety at risk it is my decision to uphold the decision of the Nursing Admissions, Professionalism, and Honors Committee.
Follow up:
The student may appeal this decision to the Provost if the student feels there was an error in the appeal procedure or if the student has additional new evidence that has arisen since speaking with the Dean of CHHS. The student's appeal must be in writing and include any pertinent information or materials, a description of the process used to attempt to resolve the grievance to that point, and new evidence or evidence of a procedural error.
Advice for Student:
STUDENT still remains a student in good standing at Concordia University. It is my recommendation that STUDENT spend some time to explore career fields and finding where her passion lies. If STUDENT remains passionate about helping people in the health care setting, perhaps she might consider changing her major to one of the other caring/healthcare professions offered at Concordia University.
Since STUDENT withdrew from the fall clinical course before receiving a failing grade she has the option of applying to other nursing programs. It would be helpful when applying to another nursing program if she has documented evidence of professional behavior in the workplace. Perhaps taking a full or part-time job and demonstrating on time arrivals and professionalism on the job may help this student.
Appeal Process Completed:
February 21, 2016
Dean College of Health and Human Services
Letter E-mailed to STUDENT: February 21, 2016
CC: (Chair Nursing Admissions, Progression, Honor Committee),(Nursing Director)
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Lionami
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Yes I am frustrated... Thats why I wasn't thinkng strait when I mentioned law suite, I only thought about it bc I heard of so many people sue others for very stupid reasons and winning the lawsuits. However, I will not pursue it so lets just drop it. Also, I appreciate the constructive criticism from all of you. I know I was making excuses to justify my inexcusable and unprofessional behavior and I want to thank you all for not just bashing on me but advising me. I have opened my eyes and realized how stupid I was and how immature I was acting and I know as a nurse the behavior I was portraying was very inappropriate even if I felt unsupported by the professors. I would like to include that I did not hide my dismissal from any school and that I was honest about it, even though it is very difficult to mention because I know I am at fault and I showed I did take responsibility for my actions and that I learned from them.
For example, with NYU they asked:
"Have you ever been found responsible for a disciplinary violation at any educational institution you have attended from the 9th grade (or the international equivalent) forward, whether related to academic misconduct or behavioral misconduct that resulted in a disciplinary action? These actions could include, but are not limited to: probation, suspension, removal, dismissal, or expulsion from the institution.
Please give the approximate date(s) of each incident, explain the circumstances and reflect on what you learned from the experience. You may use up to 400 words"
My response:
"In the fall of 2015 I was failing a clinical class at Concordia University's nursing program due my tardiness. I was given the option to withdraw from the course to prevent a failing grade but not given the opportunity to retake the course, which resulted in a dismissal from the nursing program.
Prior to this experience I did not understand the severity of tardiness and how it was an act of unprofessionalism. However, now I know why this was a major issue. Behaving in a negligent manner in a profession that requires so much hard work reflects poorly on myself, along with the school. To be a part of such an intricate field, one must be reliable, to not put unnecessary stress on co-workers, which ultimately affects the patients we are striving to help. I know being late is a patient safety concern, which is why timeliness is everything when it comes to working in a hospital because every second can make the difference.
My sleep was chronically affected and poor habits began seeping into my academic routine. I now see how impaired health can result in a complex interplay of personal behaviors, so I worked on a plan. Admitting that I needed guidance, I began speaking with a counselor to help me gain control and address the root of my problems in a healthy manner. I was able to formulate goals and an agenda that prioritizes based on urgency and importance. I identified strengths and areas in need of improvement during weekly check-ins.
Throughout this ordeal, I remained very passionate about helping people in a healthcare setting and ultimately took a job as a caregiver, demonstrating on time arrivals and professionalism by being prepared and present on the job. I hold great qualities that were overshadowed, as I'm not always the most outgoing student toward all my professors. It saddened me to hear professors devalue my ability when they did not know who I was, but it has not affected my plans to finish nursing school.
With the differences I have made, I can confidently say I will be a valuable asset. I can pursue my education and practice in an efficient and reliable manner. I have made a strong effort to right my wrongs, and I hope to be allowed the ability to further my education in a field I am passionate about."
What do you think on my response? Feedback?
I like the idea of applying to an ADN, LPN program but I will not retake my pre reqs I am already massively in debt bc of this private school. I do not have money and will only take another loan for a program. Does anyone know of any transfer programs similar to NYU's? their program: "Transfer students from two-year or four-year colleges or universities or NYU internal transfers may apply for traditional transfer admission if they have earned at least 30 credits at the time they submit the application for admission. No prerequisites are required for admission for college transfer students. Transfer students can receive credit for courses taken at previous schools, allowing individualized course progression. If offered admission, transcripts from regionally accredited institutions are examined carefully to determine how much, if any, transfer credit will be granted."