Accelerated Masters with no Nursing background

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Hello,

just wanted to see if anyone has taken this path and how it worked out.

My undergrad is Biomedical Engineering. I would have to take some of the prereqs.

Once I have a masters, would I be able to bypass bedside nursing? Due to an old foot injury, I would be unable to be a bedside nurse safely-for myself.

Thanks for for any input!

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I think that you are erring on the side of naïveté to believe that floor nurses will be replaced anytime soon by robots. We already have machines dispensing meds (betcha didn't know that) but the entity actually administering the meds must use educated human skills not available to a robot. And if you believe that doctors and NP's will in any way take over the roles of floor nurses.)

6 Big Benefits of Applying Automation to Healthcare

I'll try to explain my thoughts better to you. No, floor nurses will not be replaced completely. And yes I know you use machines that dispense medicine - I worked on one at a previous company I was with.

HOWEVER, with automation of certain tasks, it can allow 1 nurse to do the job of 2 or 3. Efficiently and effectively. How often have you thought to yourself that a task you do at work seems trivial and repetitive? And takes up a lot of your time? Well if that work could be done by an automated system it would mean less labor hours to go around. Correct?

With all the changes in healthcare going on I am sure you are well aware that it has come down mostly to cost. The administrators are trying to come up with ways to cut costs and investing in research and engineering to make that happen.

An example in the article talks about a situation with 3 nurses working 10 hour days, but with the automation there only needs to be 2 nurses working half days. That's quite a huge cut in labor expense.

That's the point I'm trying to make. Not that ALL floor nurses will be replaced, but a possibility that a good number could be cut. The automation process has changed jobs in countless areas, but healthcare has been behind. I highly doubt a hospital administrator would choose to hire 3 full time over 2 half time nurses or just 1 full time per shift. Unfortunate that it comes down to cost. And yes, a doctor or an NP may just be expected to take over some of the duties of a nurse in order to cut costs in the future (even if they don't like it). No one can say how soon that will be, but technology is moving a lot faster than you believe (betcha didn't know that!) Doctors are able to write the prescriptions, so why couldn't they do the rest?

And please don't say they don't have the compassion/bedside manner or knowledge of a nurse. I'd rather have a stern Doctor save my life than a "compassionate" doctor not do enough to help me.

Does that make more sense?

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She did actually explicitly ask for reports from people that took the DE path to NP.

Then she should not have posted her questions on the General Nursing section of an ALLnurses.com. ALL nurses, not just the chosen few. Heaven forbid that experienced non-NP nurses weigh in.

Surely anyone who posts anything anywhere on the world-wide internet understands that one will receive the good, bad & the ugly in responses. Anyone who believes they can control responses lives (I mention again) in a state of naiveté.

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The Terms of Service does encourage lively debate where people have the freedom to disagree with other people on any type of subject matter as long as they are constructive and polite.

Yes....but a ton of people have gone completely off topic of my original question. So how is that constructive?

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Ortho, ASC.
6 Big Benefits of Applying Automation to Healthcare

I'll try to explain my thoughts better to you. No, floor nurses will not be replaced completely. And yes I know you use machines that dispense medicine - I worked on one at a previous company I was with.

HOWEVER, with automation of certain tasks, it can allow 1 nurse to do the job of 2 or 3. Efficiently and effectively. How often have you thought to yourself that a task you do at work seems trivial and repetitive? And takes up a lot of your time? Well if that work could be done by an automated system it would mean less labor hours to go around. Correct?

With all the changes in healthcare going on I am sure you are well aware that it has come down mostly to cost. The administrators are trying to come up with ways to cut costs and investing in research and engineering to make that happen.

An example in the article talks about a situation with 3 nurses working 10 hour days, but with the automation there only needs to be 2 nurses working half days. That's quite a huge cut in labor expense.

That's the point I'm trying to make. Not that ALL floor nurses will be replaced, but a possibility that a good number could be cut. The automation process has changed jobs in countless areas, but healthcare has been behind. I highly doubt a hospital administrator would choose to hire 3 full time over 2 half time nurses or just 1 full time per shift. Unfortunate that it comes down to cost. And yes, a doctor or an NP may just be expected to take over some of the duties of a nurse in order to cut costs in the future (even if they don't like it). No one can say how soon that will be, but technology is moving a lot faster than you believe (betcha didn't know that!) Doctors are able to write the prescriptions, so why couldn't they do the rest?

And please don't say they don't have the compassion/bedside manner or knowledge of a nurse. I'd rather have a stern Doctor save my life than a "compassionate" doctor not do enough to help me.

Does that make more sense?

DO NOT lecture me on the future of nursing. You are not a nurse, no matter your aspirations. You have no authority or real world experience from which to have a opinion, let alone to lecture me.

At this point in time, you are drawing fantastical futures based upon book/internet research. What's lacking is reality-based thinking. Unfortunately, (and back to my original position) is experience. You're not there yet.

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Then she should not have posted her questions on the General Nursing section of an ALLnurses.com. ALL nurses, not just the chosen few. Heaven forbid that experienced non-NP nurses weigh in.

Surely anyone who posts anything anywhere on the world-wide internet understands that one will receive the good, bad & the ugly in responses. Anyone who believes they can control responses lives (I mention again) in a state of naiveté.

First: did my previous post make sense to you? You hadn't commented on it.

Second: Posting on the general nursing board instead of a specific one casts a wider net of more people to possibly get answers from - maybe people who are just starting down the path I want. Something I've learned in my time in human factors research. Yes there have to be exclusion criteria and I believe I stated that clearly in my initial post.

I do understand you cannot control people's actions. Just as you cannot control what board I choose to post on :)

I was hoping that on a nursing forum, I would find people who can read my original question and stay on topic. I understand people may say anything. But if a specific question is asked (to a specific type of person) why would others chime in with their opinions? It's not constructive, helpful nor polite. If you were with a group of friends and one asked another a specific question to her career path (which you didnt have the same path to that career) would you jump in and say "oh that's silly!"

When we screen our subjects for studies a lot of the answers are yes/no. There is a red "terminate" next to one of those. So if they answer that way we exclude them. I thought the majority of nurses would understand that concept. And they would know if they have the type of background I was asking for. If I had only gotten two answers that's fine based on the population (and thanks to those people who were able to give constructive input!)

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DO NOT lecture me on the future of nursing. You are not a nurse, no matter your aspirations. You have no authority or real world experience from which to have a opinion, let alone to lecture me.

At this point in time, you are drawing fantastical futures based upon book/internet research. What's lacking is reality-based thinking. Unfortunately, (and back to my original position) is experience. You're not there yet.

Sorry you reacted to my post that way. I was not lecturing you. You just didn't fully seem to understand the post I made which you called naïve.

And how many times have you said that last comment to people? Aren't nurses supposed to be caring? Now THAT'S naive of me.

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Sorry you reacted to my post that way. I was not lecturing you. You just didn't fully seem to understand the post I made which you called naïve.

And how many times have you said that last comment to people? Aren't nurses supposed to be caring? Now THAT'S naive of me.

Umm, yes it is naive. Nurses are educated professionals who are simply working in their chosen profession. "Caring" is not a prerequisite, although many naive, inexperienced folks still believe that old wive's tale.

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OP, to be fair, you did receive a number of responses which supported your views and which were supportive of your ambitions. You received some which didn't, but disagreement isn't necessarily without value, and is not necessarily unconstructive. On the internet one can expect to receive diverse opinions as the people who are posting are individuals with their own life experiences, values and beliefs. In their daily lives most people don't usually interact exclusively with people who are only supportive of them or in agreement with them.

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DO NOT lecture me on the future of nursing. You are not a nurse, no matter your aspirations. You have no authority or real world experience from which to have a opinion, let alone to lecture me.

So she can't have an opinion of the future of nursing because she isn't a nurse and has no real world experience but you are qualified to talk about her future as an NP without any real world experience as an NP.

Didn't you just post about how this is the Internet and everyone has their right to an opinion?

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Specializes in Med/Surg, Ortho, ASC.
So she can't have an opinion of the future of nursing because she isn't a nurse and has no real world experience but you are qualified to talk about her future as an NP without any real world experience as an NP.

Didn't you just post about how this is the Internet and everyone has their right to an opinion?

Opining is one thing. Lecturing on the future of nursing from a non-nurse to a nurse is quite another.

I am so disappointed that an NP is working so hard on this forum to deflect real nurses' opinions. In most respects, BostonFNP, you are proving all of my points about "advanced" nurses to be true.

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Hey guys..I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice on accelerated BSN/MSN...

I have a BS in Psychology from a state university. I worked for a few years after college and didn't know what I wanted to do..had a terrible back injury with multiple herniated discs that has caused me to have to drop a few classes during 2 semesters and effected my grades in other courses. Maybe a poor choice by me to begin with but i digress..My GPA is a 2.7 but the last 90 or so hours has been around a 3.5.

I am working in the ER as a scribe and have been since May. I plan on taking the last of prereq's this fall and applying in dec-jan timeframe. I guess i'm getting really nervous as my GPA is not high and I keep hearing that so many people get rejected from accelerated nursing programs it's not funny..I fit the type of person who needs to prove that I can do the work because my GPA doesn't reflect it. My extracurricular portfolio is outstanding, although I have little HCE.

I'm really worried that I won't get accepted to a single school, even though I plan to apply to about 30 schools. Do you guys know of any schools that accept lower GPA or would be a private school that would accept as long as I met the requirements? Be it BSN or MSN..i don't care as long as they would be willing to give me a shot.

Thank you in advance:up:

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