A doctor helps children change their gender

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What do you think, if a little kid wants to be a different gender, should they start hormone therapy right away? I was a tomboy as a girl and wanted to be a boy, but it was a passing phase. I grew up to be a sexually normal adult woman who doesn't like make up, likes gender neutral clothes, and is totally satisfied with being a woman.

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2008/03/30/qa_with_norman_spack/?p1=Well_MostPop_Emailed5

Last year, the pediatric endocrinologist started a new clinic at Children's Hospital Boston; it is one of a few in the world to give children treatments that change their bodies. Working on a model borrowed from Dutch researchers, Spack uses drugs to delay the first stirrings of youngsters' puberty, granting them a few more years before they develop bodies that are decidedly male or female. The effects of these puberty-blocking drugs are reversible; that is, patients can later change their minds. Unfortunately, this is not the case with hormones. Therefore, Spack prescribes estrogen and testosterone to only a few teenagers - after months of consultation with the patient, his or her caregivers, and psychiatrists. When kids take this step, they are rewriting their own future: The hormones have a powerful, pervasive effect, changing their height, breast development, and the pitch of their voices

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Okay, my opinion certainly is going to go against the grain of the majority on this thread but here goes: CHILDHOOD is a time of fast growth and changes. Many children want to be the other sex. Sorry, but to do something so irreversible as prescribing hormones and delaying puberty is tantamount to assault. What are these parents thinking???? And...since this is something very new, how do we know the delaying of puberty is without consequences???

I tried in vain to find ethics reviews and/or any studies on consequences at this time but would guess in 5-10 years we will find out!

I have known a few transgendered kids when I was a teacher, and while I understand that they felt trapped in a body that was not right, I tend to agree that such a huge decision to start hormone therapy to change is not one that a kid is equipped to make emotionally. We don't know what the long term physical/health consequences are, for one. I am leaning toward the stance that one should wait until one is an adult to make that kind of a decision.

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I would want more detailed info regarding the program but otherwise I think it is a positive change. Family is obviously involved and it does not seem to be taken lightly.

I believe that if it can help then where is the problem.

I have to admit, the first thing that came to mind was one of those 70's movies about a medical instituion that went wrong.

I want more details to dispell that first instinct.

Specializes in LTC, Med/Surg, Peds, ICU, Tele.
Okay, my opinion certainly is going to go against the grain of the majority on this thread but here goes: CHILDHOOD is a time of fast growth and changes. Many children want to be the other sex. Sorry, but to do something so irreversible as prescribing hormones and delaying puberty is tantamount to assault. What are these parents thinking???? And...since this is something very new, how do we know the delaying of puberty is without consequences???

I tried in vain to find ethics reviews and/or any studies on consequences at this time but would guess in 5-10 years we will find out!

Thank you, the voice of reason.

I spent my entire childhood wanting to be a boy. I even had an elborate fantasy that I actually believed that I was really a Martian boy named Jupiter who had come to Earth in this body (a female) in order to study the human race. I believed this for a year, I had an invisible member. Since I was adopted, it all fit together nicely.

Once I hit puberty I started coming to terms with my gender and have had a normal (average, ordinary, not unusual) sexual life as a heterosexual woman, borne several children, enjoyed breastfeeding, etc.

When I was a girl, the thought of getting breasts appalled me! They sounded like totally inconvenient appendeges.

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I'm sure I'll get flamed....but everyone has a right to their own opinion.....

I think it's wrong. God knit each of us together in the womb of our mothers and that is exactly how he meant us to be - either male or female.

This, in my opinion, should not be allowed. It makes me sick to think it is happening. Children are children, not little adults. They should not be allowed to make decisions of this magnitude on their own, nor should their parents make them for them.

I have nothing against people who change/alter their genders; however, these kinds of life changing decisions should be made in adulthood. There is no way these children are giving informed consent because their minds do not see beyond the here and now. I believe this to be completely unethical. They have no right.:angryfire

Specializes in LTC, Med/Surg, Peds, ICU, Tele.

Exactly, this would be no different than sending a child to a monestary or convent to be groomed for religious life because of an inclination they show in childhood.

Sometimes parents have ideological agendas or are easily influenced by those with them, such as people who are overly enthusiastic over gender reassignment. This isn't a decision that a parent should be making for children based on a possibly ideologically driven assessment by a psychiatrist trying to further his career by making a name for himself as a pioneer.

Life changing decisions should be made by the person in question while they are an adult. If they need help in coping until then, and sorting out their emotions, send them to a counselor, enroll them in an alternative school, homeschool, find support with others. But don't start making irreversable decisions for them like this!

we're not talking about kids w/secret agendas.

we are talking about the most extreme cases...

those who cut themselves or have suicidal ideations.

we are talking about parents and children, both desperate enough to seek this intervention as a last resort...

NOT a first one.

these kids have been demonstrating their gender adversity for yrs, before seeking help.

the decision to delay puberty and/or administer hormones, is thoroughly and carefully deliberated.

but you're right.

it must be child abuse.

heck, we'll just let these kids cut and kill themselves.

leslie

Specializes in LTC, Med/Surg, Peds, ICU, Tele.

Sorry, I disagree with you Leslie, and I don't think it's nice to imply that I think these disturbed children shouldn't get help. Frankly, I seriously doubt that these children will be magically healed of their psychological problems with gender reassignment, and I would be extremely reluctant to trust this 'pioneer' doctor.

I read that there are people who, in childhood, develop a strong desire to have their limb amputated, and demonstrate similar psychic angst about it.

I just don't think allowing children to make these decisions is right. Get them help yes. Start an irreversable change of their gender, no way!

if you read the article, these kids have been getting help...

the situation warrants "an intervention".

before any type of meds are given, there is months of counseling w/the pt, caregivers and other psychiatrists.

i don't think you are understanding the emergent nature of these situations.

and no one is going to get any type of procedure done, w/o an inexhaustible background check.

and i didn't say anything 'not nice'.

however, when you responded to a poster as a "voice of reason", that wasn't very cool either.

leslie

I understand your logic earle58, but I completely disagree with you. JlsRN gave valid alternative methods by which a parent could show support for their child. By no means do I believe these children should be left out hanging on a limb all on their own, but I do NOT believe making drastic, irreversible changes in a child is the correct way of solving the matter.

Besides, how long do you think this will be a "last resort" intervention for only the "most extreme" cases? Ideas as preposterous as this should not even be entertained. When we entertain ideas such as these someone who "wants to make a name for themselves as a pioneer" follows through with it, and after some time thes practices are bound to become norms. Our society is so out of hand today because we make rash decisions such as this without giving thought to the repercusions that are certain to follow.

Is it not plausible to think some of these children may change their minds as adults? And who is going to help them then? These will be the cutters with suicidal ideations of tomorrow.

Just some food for thought...

Our society is so out of hand today because we make rash decisions such as this without giving thought to the repercusions that are certain to follow.

where ever did you get the idea these are rash decisions?

i googled "help for transgendered children" and got 1.9 million hits.

very telling.

original link didn't work.

let's try this:

http://www.transkidspurplerainbow.com/pdf/10questions.pdf

leslie

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