Saudi Arabia - Good Idea or Not

As seen by a Registered Nurse from the United States, who is now on assignment, it can be hard to adjust to hospital nursing in Saudi Arabia. That is particularly true in the hospital complex that serves the Saudi Royal Family. The very size of this facility is daunting. It is a 1 km straight walk from the front door to the back entrance. World General World Article

To an American nurse, it seems like an upside-down system.

The Policies and Procedures that fails to fall within any framework of prior hospital experiences. This is a place where the patients tell you when it is time for an assessment or for treatments or for meds. When a member of the Royal Family is admitted to a unit he/she is accompanied by a minimum of 3 and up to 14 servants. This includes a private nurse. You will get to know this nurse well because you do not administer the meds, but rather give them to the private nurse who gives them to the patient.

There is a high degree of racial prejudice against persons of color, South Africans, Hindus, and Filipinos, in this hospital. They are not allowed to work in the Complex of the Royal Family. A nurse with an American passport is considered white and is highly sought after. Co-workers will go to the American nurse and take her along with them when they want to communicate a plan of treatment to a family member of a patient. She is introduced as an American nurse and does the speaking for the co-worker.

The lifestyles of the Royal Family have contributed to staggering poor health. By the time they are 40-50 years old, you will find patients in this unit, male and female, have osteoporosis from lack of activity. By the time they reach 50 most of these patients have often given up on life because they have nothing to do except indulge themselves. It is sad to see them on heparin because they choose to stay in bed. They can be observed sleeping all day and eating all night. Since they are royal, you cannot tell them what to do or how to do it, even if it is for their own good. A patient may be on an insulin drip for a week while gorging on food the whole time. These patients have an inordinate amount of cancer and genetic disorders, and one in three are diabetic. It is not unusual to see a handsome prince, dressed in pristine white, clean and sweet smelling, with a body wasted by muscle atrophy.

An order for DNR does not exist, except on paper. There are upwards of 6,000 members of the Saudi Royal Family. Each one is eligible to receive a share of the Family fortune, as it is doled out. Therefore, the aged and/or infirm are kept alive by all means possible. This hospital houses an entire wing of patients who are in persistent vegetative states or are on vents or other means of artificial life support. As long as they live, their family members have a closer link to the crown and they are eligible for stipends that will be managed by their guardians.

Advantages of working as a nurse in this outpost are notable.

American nurses command the highest rate of pay. Transportation, to and from Saudi for each assignment, is paid. A one year contract can include a 2 week paid vacation. A Re-up bonus for a second year is often offered. There is no Saudi tax to pay and very few living expenses since housing is provided. There may be favorable tax treatment by the IRS as well. Uniforms are provided and will be worn, without covering, only while on duty. At all other times, when in public, a nurse must be covered head to toe with the burka. Segregated swimming pools, tennis courts, and fitness centers, etc. are provided and offer diversion. Taxis or buses are available to provide transportation to leave the complex to go shopping or site-seeing. Everything in the shopping center seems to be made in China. But, the Super Markets are great. There, you will find food from all over the world. You can spend hours just tasting special imports of the best honey, or 28 different kinds of olives on the olive counters. Hint: You might find the sweet olives are horrible. However, you may never have seen such dates. They are to die for.

Disadvantages of going to this outpost need to be pointed out. American nurses are sometimes vulnerable because they can be naive. They have enjoyed the Constitutional protection of a democratic government. They do not always carefully consider that they do not have that same protection when they leave the borders of their homeland. A study of the customs and culture of the country to which they are going is a must. Most important is an understanding of the system of government and laws.

According to the U.S. Department Reports on Human Rights Practices for 2000-2001, this Islamic country is ruled by Sharia Law, and Women's Rights are virtually non-existent. Although a state of world-wide unrest exists with the Radical Islamic countries, because of oil reserves, a policy of appeasement has been adopted by the United States. Americans in Saudi Arabia must depend on this fragile relationship to continue in order to have a semblance of safety while they are in that country. It is important to know the facts and not live in the romantic fantasy of The Arabian Nights.

In Saudi Arabia, the government seems to be made up of a system of checks and balances. The Royal Family controls the money. Money is "Power". The Islamic Radicals are the Rulers because they interpret the Law of Sharia; a system of national laws derived from the Koran and the traditions of Mohammed. The Mutawwa'in are the religious police who are the enforcers of the Law. Religious Law is Civil Law in this country. Because it is interpreted literally, it is enforced without mercy. Sharia Law identifies anyone who is not a Muslim as an Infidel and an enemy. Muslims are specifically ordered to not befriend unbelievers. Mateen Elass explains the implications of this in her book, Understanding the Koran. According to standard Islamic jurisprudence, Sharia Law today interprets the Koran as obligating Muslims to be under the rule of expansionist jihad (holy war). This is understood as an armed struggle against unbelievers, whether or not the Muslim community had been attacked. This is a country that has a history of 1,600 years of revolutions, political assassinations, and massacres, and has ruled it's populace by subjection or death. Today, Arab media often incite Arabs to street rage and violence by feeding misinformation. You will remember that the world witnessed Muslims dancing in the streets, celebrating the destruction of the World Trade Center 9/11.

There is a difference, between being a judgmental person and being a person of rational judgment, that is worth remembering. If you choose to go, Saudi Arabia, be careful about how you conduct yourself. Right now, the long arm of the U.S. Embassy gives a sense of safety. However, there are things that you must do to protect yourself from embarrassment, from derision, from humiliation, from attack, and from arrest. Be prepared for unwelcome gazes and advances from the Saudi men while you are working in your uniform. They have been brought up to believe that a woman who does not cover herself is available for sex or is a prostitute. Never accept an invitation to accompany a Saudi man anywhere for the same reason. He has an expectation that you can be bought and because of his wealth may offer very expensive jewels and gifts. Outside of your unit, you will always be covered with a Burka. You will ride in the back of a bus, by Law. You will not get into a Taxi unaccompanied because you cannot be alone with a man. Men and women are separated even in the Marketplace. If you want to buy a cup of coffee in Starbucks, you will go to a segregated area for women. Is Saudi Arabia a good idea for you? Only you can decide.

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working in Saudi was one heck of an experience for me.

Work environment is very condusive. i got the chance to work in an area where everything a nurse needs to efficiently work is 90% available.

people/patients: so long as you show your TLC, you will do fine. Attitude is not accepted if you want to stay long, even if you think you are the best nurse practitioner. its a good thing to know a bit of Arabic. And befriend a Saudi national who you could ask for advise/guidance and not from hearsays from those that came ahead of you.

co-saudi nurses : My first day of work, my charge nurse was a SAudi gal and she was patient in showing me how to do things. yup, there are those who i wont say lazy, but they can get away with doing stuff since they always employ the watchers to do it to the patients.

Trouble in the kingdom: "When in Rome, do what the Romans do" simple as that, and you will be out of trouble. FIRST RULE I LEARNED: never stray alone. . . this could get you in a lot of trouble.

Are there oppertunities for male nurses there? Are men and women allowed to hang out with eachother?

There are opportunities for male nurses but not that many.

No, not in public, not if you are not husband and wife with documents to show.

Hi, what have you done now? Did you take volunteering or took the saudi opportunity?

im in your position, i would take the saudi job but it would be better if you can find a better offer, if not, do take the following to consider to help you with your decision.

1. volunteering would cost you money and it will not be considered a service anyway for most cases. 550usd im sure is low, but that is twice what you get as a nurse in most private hospitals exclusive of taxes, food, transportation, accommodation

2. Take it like you are also doing volunteer work but paid and you get the much needed hospital experience.

3. 2 years is not long, and after that, your chances for better salary will be increased.

Hello fellow nurses, just finished reading the entire thread and what an interesting read. I'm actually interested in moving to Saudi Arabia, if at all possible. I'm a new grad from california that just took my nclex in the beginning of May and currently have my name posted on the board of california as an registered nurse. I have a few questions for those nurses working in KSA. I'm a male muslim nurse who's married with a 2 year old, so the culture and religion does NOT bug me at all. I would like to work in Jeddah due to the fact that it's quite close to the holy city of Mecca.

1. Does the agency hire male nurses, if so how difficult to get an offer, due to the fact I'm a male and a new grad?

2. Am I able to bring my family with me to the country, while I work?

3. Am I able to travel to Mecca and Medina with out any restrictions?

4. As of May 23, 2012, what type of contracts are out there (pay and accommidations)? Because a fellow nurse there now was stating the agencies aren't offering the living stipend anymore, is this true???

5. If I do get a job offer, what's the ruling on shipping a car from the USA to Jeddah?

i know this is an old post, but you can bring in a bible for your own personal use. at this time you can't bring 900 bibles :) as it is a kingdom, they do not wish to have proselytizing. and please remember saudi women working in saudi make more money always than saudi men... in part to pay for their taxis. nowhere is perfect :)

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1. Does the agency hire male nurses, if so how difficult to get an offer, due to the fact I'm a male and a new grad?

2. Am I able to bring my family with me to the country, while I work?

3. Am I able to travel to Mecca and Medina with out any restrictions?

4. As of May 23, 2012, what type of contracts are out there (pay and accommidations)? Because a fellow nurse there now was stating the agencies aren't offering the living stipend anymore, is this true???

5. If I do get a job offer, what's the ruling on shipping a car from the USA to Jeddah?

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My experience in Early 90s

  1. Yes, they hire male as a new grad.
  2. You can have your spouse and 2 children with free tickets after completing 1 year contract with clean performance. They should stay at least 3 month to entitle return tickets
  3. Traveling to Mecca and Medina for moslem are allowed (except during Haj season) with written travel permit.
  4. Housing allowance only for male nurses. It was 8000 SR/year (around USD2200)
  5. Can't answer that. But you can buy any brand of used car. It was very cheap there.

Note that it was my 1990 experience, and employed by the Saudia MOH (not by any Saudi private hospital as you may earn less)

You'd better make an inquiry to the nearest Saudia Embassy or consulate. :)

Mas Catoer

Specializes in Trauma, ER, ICU, CCU, PACU, GI, Cardiology, OR.

enlightening after reading the entire thread...however, i can certainly say that i'll stay in u.s.a. at my "eternal vacation state of hawaii" if you decide to do otherwise i wish you the very best always wherever you may practice...aloha~

Wow. This was a great post although now it is 2012. Will anyone tell us how things are working in Saudi Arabia now? One year of time seems little to give to allow one to gain some financial momentum when one returns back to the USA. Imagine, U.S. nurses thinking about going abroad to make a living because the economy is so bad for us here.

Is it true that American Nurses are more respected in Saudi than we are here? I would just like to know mainly how we are received in general...any anger about US taking THEIR jobs; for instance? (A common feeling amongst some U.S nurses towards nurses from other countries, unfortunately)...

I am in the starting stages of planning a travel assignment to Saudi. Does anyone know how difficult it is to find a spot in Dubai? That seems a more modern area;...maybe better standards of practice in general? so many questions....Thank you so much!!!

Specializes in LTC (LPN-RN).

Culture and religion in that region is similar. I am not at all surprised by the treatment of non white foreigners.

Specializes in LTC (LPN-RN).

//know this is an old post, but you can bring in a bible for your own personal use. at this time you can't bring 900 bibles :) as it is a kingdom, they do not wish to have proselytizing//

that is so funny. We go there we are restricted. Muslims come here and can do as they please....how funny

To reply to Katherine100: Even muslims are discriminated in Saudi Arabia. Anybody who doesn't follow the particular brand of religion that is followed there is a second class human being. Shia Muslims particularly.

Specializes in Acute Care Psych, DNP Student.

Saudi Arabia continues to be a NOT.