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Saudi Arabia - Good Idea or Not - page 19

To an American nurse, it seems like an upside-down system of Policies and Procedures that fails to fall within any framework of prior hospital experiences. This is a place where the patients tell you... Read More

  1. Visit  AinSarip profile page
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    ok. i got ur point.. ur just telling the readers,nurses about the pros and cons of working here in KSA and there's nothing wrong about it because it's true..i dont have to write it here again coz its all stated above. Its a true story, but remember that it's their culture. The patient may all have his/her family in her/his unit so what's the problem about that? they've been doing that hundred years ago,even other muslims in many countries are doing that..ok, my point here is we,as a nurse should not judge muslims by what we see.. we have to learn their cultures,beliefs, and what's in their society.. u just have to do is your obligation as a nurse.. you can educate them anyway,at least u have done ur job..

    so if ur not a muslim and you have decided to work here, prepare urself.. u know arabs, u know the rules of islams, and u should respect it.. think more than twice before coming here so u cant complain anymore and u cant judge our law.. For you,our Sharia Law is without mercy, or whatsoever that u hate about Islam law but we love it.. Respect it.. Learn the values and ethics of a nurse.. We should not be judgmental, we were trained to be open minded and accept all cultures and beliefs that we may encounter during our career journey!
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  2. Visit  whaever profile page
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    NURSING is NURSING, where ever you go if u are a NURSE you are a NURSE...no need to compare...learn to accept and be flexible to the people, place, culture and beliefs of the people you choose to be with......because NURSING is a vocation and a NOBLE PROFESSION!!!!
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    being a NURSE, we can be of example to the people of the world...NOT to criticize, the people, the place, the culture we choose to practice our profession....we are NURSES to serve the PEOPLE.....whatever reward we can get...the feeling of being involve in someone's life we don't even know...MAKES A DIFFERENCE!!!!!!! it's not just about MONEY!!!!!
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    SAUDI ARABIA is full of life....love working here...been here for almost 20 years....
  5. Visit  MM007RN profile page
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    Hello fellow nurses, I am brand new to allnurses.com. I enjoyed this blog a lot and learned ton of valuable information regarding S.A. culture differences. All in all I think this would be a possibility down the road for my family. I have been doing a quick research regarding work in Saudi Arabia or other countries with substantial financial reward. I am ICU / ER nurse here in the US with experience in Med/surg as well.

    Does anybody work or have an idea what other countries around the world have lucrative opportunities for RNs ? Specifically to Saudi Arabia, do RNs work 12 hour shifts 3 times a week or is the work schedule routine different? How easy / hard is it to work over time and is there overtime 1 1/2 times more of regular pay or just extra hours? Thank you for all comments and suggestions!!
  6. Visit  Erikadawn RN profile page
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    I am a dialysis nurse with experience, do they accept dialysis nurses to travel? Also is over time available to work, or only your allowed hours? Thinking about it
  7. Visit  Meedo profile page
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    Jan 28, '08 by dojahrn
    Unfortunately I was hoping to receive some unbiased information about working as a nurse in SA. I think your article told me what you think of the royal family and Islam. I do know that most of what you said about Islam is incorrect, and that most of what you encountered is cultural...and NOT Islamic! But what is their interpretation of what is Islam and Sharia law. On the same token we can speak of what is supposed to be constitutional here in the USA and what is REAL Christianity as is practiced by Americans. But professionally, we should only speak on the topic of what it is like to WORK in SA, and what makes it different than nursing in the USA.
    Working in any country that is not your home you can expect some difficulties. I worked in west germany, and felt I was discriminated against, and sometimes I am in my own country(USA). One thing I can say is this...if all you say is true, it sure has not put a damper on the flow of americans( nurses, contractors etc ) for the tax free money and benefits! I have been invited to work in Jeddah SA ( Onc and Hospice ), if I decide to go I know I can't judge a whole society by one measuring stick. I must keep an open mind, and realize as a nurse we are expected to provide care to all individuals across a wide spectrum of cultures. Caring for arabs here in the US is not much different, they usually have an entourage, even if they aren't royalty. They also like to call the shots, and I feel it's ok, it's their loved one who is ill. I have come across many Americans who feel the same way when I approach for treatments or medications. And how many Americans do we see that eat, smoke and drink to their detrement? Humans will be humans always...
    Surely there is some reason other than the pay to work in another country? If it's only to appreciate what you have at home, and to bring your experience/ expertise/ compassion to a place where you are not provided all your creature comforts.

    thanks for clearing up some of the misleading information, you save my time
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  8. Visit  pamud profile page
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    What hospital did you work and what agency did you use?
  9. Visit  Yoddie profile page
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    I concur. I am also trying to go to SA to work as a nurse in the King Faisal Specialty Hospital. The patients here seem to be no different from what is explained there. Here the patients do the same things such as tell the nurse what they want and how they want it as if they are the medical staff. That's just healthcare in itself. That's where we are leaning towards: as system that caters to "have it your way" and not this is what is best for you and your health at the moment. We are no different or better than any other country in many aspects. I hope my assignment is approved - God willing. It will be fore 1 year and I think it will be great to experience working in a foreign country.
  10. Visit  Yoddie profile page
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    I think we all have to keep an open mind about foreign travel and foreigners. Lets not think in our minds that America is perfect in all things. It has it many faults as well especially in the health care such as poor pay, understaffed, nurse to patient ratio is outrageous, lack of empathy from administrative staff of any kind, over worked, nurse to nurse bullying, lack of confidentiality when reporting issues to HR or to management, back stabbing nurses to make themselves look good, and the list can go on. HR blackballing nurses when they speak up on ethical issues, discrimination issues or the like. And as far as America in itself goes, lets look at racism, discrimination on all levels - especially if you are black, laziness of those who drain the financial resources of the country that are there to only assist for a short period, discrimination and racism in the governmental system, bribes in the governmental system, and this list can go on. So my point is that we all have faults in someway or another. No one person or system is perfect. While we had the 911 attack we also have to remember that this country was originally stolen from the Indians, the years of slavery to the black race, 55 million abortions that is legal in this country, and much more. So again Saudi Arabia has it's problems but so does American and the rest of the world.

    I am however, considering a travel nurse position in Saudi Arabia at the King Faisal Specialist Hospital & Research Center in Riyadh. I know it is not a perfect country and possibly country but neither is America and the hospitals here. Nurse have no more say (authority) in hospitals in American then women probably do in these Middle East countries. In the South if you mention the word "union", or your desire to start one, you are fired immediately. I was told by an administrator that if we went down to the auditorium to listen to the Union people (who were trying to get one implemented in our hospital) presentation we would be fired for abandonment (even though we were either on lunch or had someone watch our pts). Another facility a nurse was fired because she mentioned that we needed one in that particular hospital. The word got out what she said and she was fired. So just like you have to use common sense or protect yourself in some way with the way you act or say thins in these foreign hospitals so you do here in the USA. Just as they may hate Americans in the middles east so now in America this same hate is transferred to Christians. So you see we are no different or better than anyone in the middle east. We just have different battle grounds and enemies.

    I concur. I am also trying to go to SA to work as a nurse in the King Faisal Specialty Hospital. The patients here seem to be no different from what is explained there. Here the patients do the same things such as tell the nurse what they want and how they want it as if they are the medical staff. That's just healthcare in itself. That's where we are leaning towards: as system that caters to "have it your way" and not this is what is best for you and your health at the moment. We are no different or better than any other country in many aspects. I hope my assignment is approved - God willing. It will be fore 1 year and I think it will be great to experience working in a foreign country.

    Sad to say no country, yes even America who stole this country from the Native Indians, had slaves for hundreds of years, and whatever other evil is out there is any better in morals and ethical issues than Saudi Arabia or Muslims.
  11. Visit  Yoddie profile page
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    Where are you working in SA? I am hoping to get a contract there in the next few months, if everything clears.
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    OMG Marinoh, that is great. I am planning to travel to SA/ Riyadh and hope to be working in the hospital there. You gave great information and exactly what the travel nurse agency stated. What agency are you with and what hospitall are you working in?
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    Quote from Meedo
    Jan 28, '08 by dojahrn
    Unfortunately I was hoping to receive some unbiased information about working as a nurse in SA. I think your article told me what you think of the royal family and Islam. I do know that most of what you said about Islam is incorrect, and that most of what you encountered is cultural...and NOT Islamic!
    well i don't think the post was an attempt at anything other than to simply show someone's experience within a different cultural setting, and at no point did the OP make broad generalizations about religion. And in that respect there is no right or wrong necessarily as it is simply an individual's account, and an interesting one at that.
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