A nurse has an RN but did not get a diploma or BSN - page 2
Hi folks: Quick question. If an RN became a nurse years ago but did not graduate from nursing school, either with a BSN or Diploma, what would they have to go through to get accepted into an online program to finish the BSN? The... Read More
- 3Oct 4, '12 by RNsRWeQuote from enchantmentdisUnfortunate for your friend, but the minimum requirement in any State (except CA, I believe) for sitting for the NCLEX is successful completion (graduation) from an accredited nursing program.Thanks, again. He was never an LVN, and says he can't afford to go back to school right now to complete the BSN; but needs to move to another state to assist in the care of a family member, but will need a nursing job lined up before leaving. He was never told by his school that he should finish the program or something like this might happen later. I'm sure this has happened to other nurses. What a mess.
Your friend is missing an entire year's worth of education, the last year of the BSN program he was in. It isn't just a couple of credits. It's a YEAR. I can't imagine that he was never told of the loophole he was using to his advantage (that is, getting the RN license without a degree). More likely, he has forgotten about it because he never expected it would be a problem--unfortunately for him, very short-sighted decision-making has left him in a bit of a predicament!
He cannot work as an nurse in any capacity (RN or LPN) without having a valid license/endorsement for the State in which he plans to work. If that State requires him to complete a nursing program before being allowed an endorsement to his license, then he'll HAVE TO DO IT. Otherwise....he won't be working as a nurse.
This situation comes up from time to time, mostly because CA kept their nursing shortage down by creating this loophole, and then when people who have taken advantage of it want to move out of State, they find that they are back where they started: needing to finish their schooling.
- 0Quote from classicdameHe is being pro-active and asking questions. Just having trouble getting the online BSN programs to allow certain classes he took along time ago. I am also interested in this because i rarely have seen nurses who have not graduated from their nursing schools. Do you have anything constructive to add classicdame?why isn't he asking these questions? Seems he needs to be more pro-active
- 0I consider it a big oversite that the school this guy attended to allow him to nearly get through the program, take the NCLEX before he's finished just to cover a nursing shortage, and that no nursing instructor warned him that by doing so he would be unable to endorse to other states or be hired in certain RN positions.
- 0To "classicdame": I have showed my friend this site and tried to get him to join, or to at least read through some of the posts. His response was "oh, i've been there before, just a buncha mean nurses, very critical, know it alls, they are sarcastic and treat the other posters like garbage and are not helpful". Imagine that. Lol.
- 4Oct 4, '12 by GrnTea, BSN, MSN, RNI would bet dollars to doughnuts that the faculty did tell the students exactly that, and the students blew it off because they said to themselves, "Bonus! I get to call myself an RN and save a year of tuition!" And then promptly forgot or didn't care about the only-in-California thang. Until they did, like your friend.
This is also a cautionary tale to those who take online "degrees" that are only approved for NCLEX in one state. Sure, go ahead and do that. But you never know when life will intervene and there you are, being forced to take a real education after all.
- 1Oct 4, '12 by MunoRNBSN programs in my state used to have a similar option, but you ended up with an ADN. You could do your BSN pre-reqs, then the program, leaving about a year's worth of General Bachelor's requirements left (Art History and the like). You could then transfer your credits to an ADN program and get an ADN degree so you could take the NCLEX and then work while you took your last year's worth of random classes to fulfill your Bachelor's requirements. They found that too many people were just sticking with their ADN so they took away this option.
In theory your co-worker could do the same, although it's unlikely that all, or even most of his 20 year old credits will transfer, but it's worth a try.
- 3Oct 4, '12 by MrChicagoRNQuote from enchantmentdisHe states he wasn't told of the ramifications of not finishing school, doesn't like the people here, but knows now what he needs to do. Sounds like that's a wrap.To "classicdame": I have showed my friend this site and tried to get him to join, or to at least read through some of the posts. His response was "oh, i've been there before, just a buncha mean nurses, very critical, know it alls, they are sarcastic and treat the other posters like garbage and are not helpful". Imagine that. Lol.