I am an RN with an ADN. I have been researching my education options. CRNA school requires a BSN (or for some schools a BS). Except for applying to CRNA school I can't see any reason to get a BSN. There are numerous ADN to MSN programs out there that never award a BSN as part of their program including NP, CNS and nurse educator options. Most of these programs are 5 semesters and offered in various delivery methods including on-line. The vast majority of RN to BSN programs I have looked into are at least 4 semesters (though there are exceptions).
So if one can attain and ADN-RN in four 16 week semesters for a total cost of around $6000 as we can here in Wisconsin, then earn an online MSN in 4 or 5 semesters what is the motivation to get a BSN?
I can think of some very good reasons to get a BSN.
1. Your goal is to apply to CRNA school.
2. You already have a BS in another field an go to a one year accelerated BSN program.
3. You are just out of high school and need to whole "college experience".
4. You live in an area where the local community college has a long waiting list and relocation for school is not an option.
5. You get a full ride scholarship to a university with a BSN program. What am I missing? What other reasons are there to get BSN?
For me it's is to get those "BSN preferred or required" positions away from the bedside as I age in nursing. I like to teach and with a BSN I can now teach ADN clinical groups, as well as LPNs, work in management (something I would never do), or any number of non-bedside nursing where my BSN would give me the edge.
If I thought I could physically handle bedside nursing at the age of 70 (which unless I marry rich or win the lottery, giving my current mortgage, etc. is what I'm going to have to do)(it's already getting tough because my plantar fascitis refuses to heal and my feet and killing me daily. LOL) and if I thought I would be fulfilled with that I would not bother with the BSN.
In many parts of the country the ADN can get your far and it is indeed a non-issue in making good money and getting good positions. Many value experience over degree, if you know the right person and are in the right place at the right time. I can certainly understand that some people would come to the conclusion that the BSN is obsolete, especially when there are ADN to MSN programs outh there.
Last edit by Tweety on Oct 22, '07
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*** DO you think that a nurse with an MSN would be at a disadvantage over the BSN qualified nurse in those positions? Given than an ADN nurse can obtain MSN with roughly the same amount of effort (at least it seems that way to me reading the requirements from the various programs) as a BSN.
The advantage of going the ADN to MSN route is that you can start taking masters levels courses like assessment, patho. and research and not have to take them at a BSN level and then repeat at an MSN level. Having the MSN wouldn't be a disadvatage in fact in nursing education it's required to go into the classroom. BSNs can teach the clinical groups but not the lectures in the classroom or online.
If I were an employer and there was a BSN-preferred job, I would not necessarily give preference tot he MSN, but also look at the experience.
Last edit by Tweety on Oct 22, '07
I think the OP is asking a good question -- but its only really really relevant to someone who already has an ADN or Diploma. I think she is essentially saying, "Why bother getting a BSN if getting an MSN involves only a little more time, effort, and money?" "Why not go the RN-MSN route?"
I agree that for many people, the RN-MSN option makes a lot of sense. For me, that is the route I would probably take if Iwere in that situation. However, for many people, there are no RN-MSN programs nearby ... or the online options don't appeal to them for one reason or another. They may prefer the BNS program because it gives them more job opportunities, but is still a "do-able" program for them when the RN-MSN program is not as "do-able."
For others -- and this is a big one -- they may not be ready to committ to a specialty field or a specific advanced practice role function. The BSN is a general degree, while an MSN prepares the nurse to practice at an advanced level in a specific specialty and in a specific role (e.g. NP, CNS, educator, manager, etc.) Not everyone wants to make that committment. They just want to move to the next step up the educational ladder without biting off more than they wish to chew at the moment.
And of course ... for other people ... a BSN is a great way to start a nursing career.
The BSN is far, far from obsolete. It just might not be the right choice for everybody.
Last edit by llg on Oct 21, '07