Only a third of nurses willing to have swine flu vaccine: poll

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Frontline health and social care workers will be among the first to be vaccinated in October along with people with serious underlying health problems and pregnant women. However a survey by Nursing Times has found many frontline nurses have reservations. Only one in three said they are prepared to have the H1N1 vaccine with a third undecided and the rest saying no.

Almost 1,500 nurses were polled, of whom 91 per cent said they were frontline.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/swine-flu/6043612/Only-a-third-of-nurses-willing-to-have-swine-flu-vaccine-poll.html

Hmm...

This is another article I read in regards to the vaccine about legal immunity being set for swine flu vaccine makers! No wonder...!!

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http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/rr58e0821a1.htm

[Vaccination Against Novel Influenza A (H1N1) Virus Infection

There is growing evidence that the link between autism and Thimerosal is unfounded. But if the nasal spray (which is live, attenuated) is available, this vaccine traditionally does not contain Thimerosal. It can't be given in folk age 50 and up, in anyone with respiratory disease, or in patients who are immunosuppressed.

OK, here is a little something about thimerosal. I sure wish that some agency would put all of this info together in one spot for us.

Looks like if the syringes come pre-filled that there is less chance of having the thimerosal in them. But, you should ask about it if it worries you.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/29/AR2009072903607_2.html?sid=ST2009072903827

Some of the vaccine will be stored in multi-dose vials containing thimerosal, an antibacterial additive that contains mercury. But there will also be single-dose syringes without thimerosal, a substance that some assert is harmful to children.

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Eh, I have yet to see what I want to see in regards to this vaccine. I just am having a hard time believing there isn't a motive behind this all. I find this flu quite amusing, as I was raised on a farm with pigs and never caught the flu. As a matter of fact, I've been knee deep in pig mud and for more than half my life. So...

...it's going to take a lot to convince me.

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Currently in the hospital I am employed at we've been told that all staff with patient contact must take the vaccine or else wear a mask the ENTIRE time they are in the hospital for their 12 hour shift from Oct 1st to March 31st.

Can't wait to see how that goes over and I have a feeling we arent the only hospital to do that.....they havent told the employees yet I just happen to know by chance cuz I saw a email received from corporate to HR.

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They CANNOT FORCE any kind of vaccine on ANYONE. Let them try and see what happens. It will be interesting...

Specializes in Acute post op ortho.

If you want a peek inside the CDC, look into their message boards.

http://www.cdcchatter.net/

I met an attorney in 2006 who has worked for vaccine injured individuals, he has an extensive library filled with documents he had to file Freedom Of Information Act papers to obtain. I've sent him an e-mail to see if he's willing to share some of the information r/e the 1976 vaccine.

He worked extensively to recover damages for victims of that fiasco. If I remember correctly, the vaccine developed by Park Davis was a total disaster from the get-go.

Here's a link to a video he posted on you tube. Hopefully I'll be able to provide you with linkage to the entire story.

He's a snarky shoot from the hip kinda guy, but he's seen the damage vaccines can do, and he's seen the lengths our government is wiling to go to in order to protect drug manufacturers.

I really had no clue about vaccine damage until I met him.....I didn't know we had the vaccine injury compensation program, or how it came about until we met.

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They CANNOT FORCE any kind of vaccine on ANYONE. Let them try and see what happens. It will be interesting...

Actually, thanks to the Homeland Security Act, Project Bioshield they can.

Specializes in Acute post op ortho.
Eh, I have yet to see what I want to see in regards to this vaccine. I just am having a hard time believing there isn't a motive behind this all. I find this flu quite amusing, as I was raised on a farm with pigs and never caught the flu. As a matter of fact, I've been knee deep in pig mud and for more than half my life. So...

...it's going to take a lot to convince me.

Motive is spelled 'money'

I never take the regular, annual flu vaccine, and I won't be taking a swine flu vaccine if/when I'm offered one.

(And I've never had the flu.)

Thimerosal should be a non-issue by now. No one ever established a link between thimerosal and autism. Talk about an urban myth.

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Thimerosal should be a non-issue by now. No one ever established a link between thimerosal and autism. Talk about an urban myth.

Large scale epidemiological studies aren't designed to pick up problems that may be occurring in a subset of genetically susceptible individuals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Burbacher

In 2005, a study Burbacher conducted confirmed that thimerosal is distributed to the brain much more readily than methylmercury, and he is now working on a follow-up project will examine the effects of the vaccine preservative on primate development. Burbacher's primate studies, funded by the National Institute of Health (NIH), have included comparisons of the effects of injected ethylmercury, the primary active ingredient in thimerosal, to those of orally administered methylmercury on macaques. His research sought to determine whether federal safety limits for methylmercury exposure are a suitable reference for assessing the effects of ethylmercury found in thimerosal containing vaccines (TCVs). His research revealed significant differences between methyl- and ethylmercury metabolism.[1], [2],

Burbacher determined that injected ethylmercury cleared from the bloodstream much more rapidly than ingested methylmercury. However, his study also found that a larger fraction of the ethylmercury remained in the brains of the macaques, where it was converted to potentially more harmful inorganic compounds. Burbacher did not draw conclusions regarding the relative toxicity of ethylmercury versus methylmercury, but did warn that methylmercury is unlikely to be a suitable reference for evaluating ethylmercury toxicity. The problem, according to Burbacher, is that regulators trying to assess the potential harm of TCVs used methylmercury, a widely studied compound, as a benchmark for mercury exposure, rather than the little-known compound called ethylmercury used in TCVs.

There have been dozens of independently funded studies that have proven the mercury found in thimerasol have detrimental effects on the brain.

Science caught up with lead paint when studies that weren't paid for by the paint industry were funded.

Same thing with tobacco.

Science will catch up with thimerasol. It's just a matter of time.

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I take the flu vaccine every year & have had no problems with them.

That being said, I do not feel comfortable taking a vaccine that the government is wanting to make mandatory & also protects the liability of the vaccination makers. That is like giving those companies free reign to do what they want without consequences of their actions. Without the consequences of causing harm, would the companies still feel responsible for their actions?

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The government has never said anywhere that this should be mandatory, ChicagoPeds.

No one wants a repeat of the 1976 vaccine fiasco least of all the govt or the vaccine companies. They would be out of business by the following year despite liability protection. Many manufacturers left the US after the 1976 event and the subsequent bad press, never to return. It is why we have so few vaccine manufacturers left in this country.

I believe that they are proceeding with extraordinary precaution because of this history as best as they can. It is not their fault that the pandemic caught everyone unprepared. It is a bad situation. The vaccines will not be ready before the flu peaks here most likely.

Most of us will be susceptible. Even if we are infected once, it is no guarantee that we cannot be infected again either so that is why the vaccinations will be the best protection.

Even though the majority of people will recover without incident, we have no way of knowing who will suffer severe consequences. We all know about the high risk groups being targeted by the virus. We all know that this virus prefers school age kids and young adults. We should keep in mind also that the WHO says that 40% of those with severe outcomes were in previously healthy people with no apparent health problems. This virus unlike seasonal flu, has the ability to infect the lungs very deeply. There is no way to know which of us will be very unlucky. Most people will be perfectly fine, but some of us will not, just from getting the flu.

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