RN's w/chronic pain, using narcotics - page 2

I am currently, and have been, for 3 years, taking oxycontin for chronic pain. My question is, Is is legal for a nurse to work while taking pain meds? I am unable to work, or hardly move unless I... Read More

  1. Visit  SRbear profile page
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    I am sorry to hear about your back cubby. I kept quiet about the narcotic I had to take, and worked for 3 years as a charge nurse on a large m/s floor, and did a good job. Some of my at work nurse friends knew I was taking a narcotic, somehow nurse manager found out. Who knows? Anyway, BON, is now saying I violated nurse practice act.. NO way I can think of to fight this, looks like that little piece of paper that says R.N. ... gonna go in the shredder. So keep it quiet, work to pay your bills, and heck, you can even pay some of mine !! The very best of luck to you, and wishes that your pain will decrease.
  2. Visit  doodlemom profile page
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    Did you have a prescription? I would fight this one.

    Quote from SRbear
    I am sorry to hear about your back cubby. I kept quiet about the narcotic I had to take, and worked for 3 years as a charge nurse on a large m/s floor, and did a good job. Some of my at work nurse friends knew I was taking a narcotic, somehow nurse manager found out. Who knows? Anyway, BON, is now saying I violated nurse practice act.. NO way I can think of to fight this, looks like that little piece of paper that says R.N. ... gonna go in the shredder. So keep it quiet, work to pay your bills, and heck, you can even pay some of mine !! The very best of luck to you, and wishes that your pain will decrease.
  3. Visit  grannynurse FNP student profile page
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    Quote from SRbear
    I am sorry to hear about your back cubby. I kept quiet about the narcotic I had to take, and worked for 3 years as a charge nurse on a large m/s floor, and did a good job. Some of my at work nurse friends knew I was taking a narcotic, somehow nurse manager found out. Who knows? Anyway, BON, is now saying I violated nurse practice act.. NO way I can think of to fight this, looks like that little piece of paper that says R.N. ... gonna go in the shredder. So keep it quiet, work to pay your bills, and heck, you can even pay some of mine !! The very best of luck to you, and wishes that your pain will decrease.
    Please do not sit back and let them take your license. Ask which specific portion of the NPA you violated. You are entitled to know the accusations that have been made against you. Do you homework, if you can't afford an attorney. Go to your library and go to WESTLAW to do the legal research. As the research librarian for help. Or go to the local college library and use their computers and librarian.

    Grannynurse
  4. Visit  sirI profile page
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    Quote from SRbear
    I am sorry to hear about your back cubby. I kept quiet about the narcotic I had to take, and worked for 3 years as a charge nurse on a large m/s floor, and did a good job. Some of my at work nurse friends knew I was taking a narcotic, somehow nurse manager found out. Who knows? Anyway, BON, is now saying I violated nurse practice act.. NO way I can think of to fight this, looks like that little piece of paper that says R.N. ... gonna go in the shredder. So keep it quiet, work to pay your bills, and heck, you can even pay some of mine !! The very best of luck to you, and wishes that your pain will decrease.
    As proven on this BB and and beyond, this is adverse advice. Anytime a nurse requires a narcotic/controlled substance and works at the same time, this must be declared.
  5. Visit  sirI profile page
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    Quote from doodlemom
    Did you have a prescription? I would fight this one.
    If an individual has a valid prescription for a controlled substance and does not declare this, it is in violation. There is nothing to fight.
  6. Visit  grannynurse FNP student profile page
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    Quote from siri
    If an individual has a valid prescription for a controlled substance and does not declare this, it is in violation. There is nothing to fight.
    Declare it to whom? The BON, one's employer?

    Grannynurse
  7. Visit  SRbear profile page
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    Well....call it gone. When I started at the pain clinic (associated with the hospital, my doc was and still is head of anethesia there), and he started me on oxycontin, I asked him if I could work on it ,and he said yes. For 2 1/2 yrs, I ran into him around the hospital, he would ask me how I was doing. Granted I should have done the homework on the narcotic and working thing. But some anger is kicking in..did the doc not have just a little bit more responsibility in explaining things. He didn't seem to have a problem with me taking care of his patients.
  8. Visit  mattsmom81 profile page
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    I'm so sorry. I would love to see this challenged in the courts through ADA. I don
    t think the BNE can make laws against federal laws, and it seems to me this has been done here. If a nurse is not impaired and can do the job I cannot understand this..it seems to me discrimination towards a nurse in chronic pain who needs narcs to function, with an assumption they are 'impaired'.

    Siri...sorry...I didn't know you were a legal nurse consultant...is there no hope that this can be fough, or will nurses in chronic pain be forever undermedicated to keep a job???
  9. Visit  teeituptom profile page
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    Do you want someone under the use of narcotics driving a car.

    Do you want a nurse using narcotics to control pain to take care of your family members

    To be truthfull for myself I have to answer....No

    I do feel sorry for your problems though. There are areas that you can go into not involving patient care though, that you can do. Insurance comapnies love haveing nurses for audits and such. So do Shysters.
  10. Visit  SRbear profile page
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    Do you realize how many people out there are working and driving each day taking pain meds?? Wonder if we could find out the number of oxycontin precriptions filled each year or for other narcotics as well. We as nurses have been pushed over the last years, that pain is the fifth vital sign, and pain is what the patient says it is. Well that is great............but they really did not finish the teaching......like putting the cart before the horse. We need to treat pain..good...but do you stop working because you have pain, do you stop being a mother, daughter, wife, friend. We have some serious thinking and studying to do here folks. you can't treat pain, and then condemn those you treat.
    NursePaula likes this.
  11. Visit  sirI profile page
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    Quote from mattsmom81
    I'm so sorry. I would love to see this challenged in the courts through ADA. I don
    t think the BNE can make laws against federal laws, and it seems to me this has been done here. If a nurse is not impaired and can do the job I cannot understand this..it seems to me discrimination towards a nurse in chronic pain who needs narcs to function, with an assumption they are 'impaired'.

    Siri...sorry...I didn't know you were a legal nurse consultant...is there no hope that this can be fough, or will nurses in chronic pain be forever undermedicated to keep a job???
    Hey there, mattsmom,

    If the state law is more stringent than the federal law about the same issue/s then, yes, the state law takes precedence.

    I see these laws not changing any time soon, if ever. It is strictly a patient safety factor.
  12. Visit  mattsmom81 profile page
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    Quote from teeituptom
    Do you want someone under the use of narcotics driving a car.

    Do you want a nurse using narcotics to control pain to take care of your family members

    To be truthfull for myself I have to answer....No

    I do feel sorry for your problems though. There are areas that you can go into not involving patient care though, that you can do. Insurance comapnies love haveing nurses for audits and such. So do Shysters.
    If I take a Vicodin, my pain is well controlled, I can smile and think straight. I don't get dizzy or fuzzy but that's just me. Right now my pain is controlled on Tramadol and Mobic, but this will likely change in time and I'd like to think I could still get a nursing job if I need an occasional Vicodin.

    Would I work in critical care???Probably not...I'd go for something less stressful. My problem is with the BON essentially saying we can't be nurses anymore because we have chronic severe pain (and most of it is FROM nursing) and I am afraid that no employer would want us because of the stigma. Just doesn't seem right. We can't get SSD in many cases, and we can't get a job either. Doesn't seem fair.
  13. Visit  CrunchRN profile page
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    I would have no problem having a nurse whose meds are stabilized, and is able to funtion care for me or my family. If the pain management doc say's they are safe I think it should be allowed. I would be thrilled if my family member had an experienced, sensible nurse like Mattsmom caring for them. It is so ironic that nurses who are hurt doing their duties are then literally dumped by everyone without so much as a thanks for your years of service. I think it stinks, and once again I think other nurses who should be educating the public and those in power on these issues. There is a HUGE difference between a nurse on chronic pain amagement and one taking PRN meds or treatment for an acute problem. No, I do not have pain issues, but I can see what would happen if I did have them and I do not like it.
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