Is this sneaky? - page 3
by sbostonRN 6,278 Views | 29 Comments
On the top of my resume, I have my name listed, followed by my credentials with my highest degree. I have an ASN and a BS in Biology, so I write it as: Jane Doe, BS RN Do you think this is sneaky? I went on an interview... Read More
- 0May 21, '12 by not.done.yet GuideCredentials are not given for any bachelors degree you get. Generally they are limited to education that requires certification or licensure or represent advanced education. In that vein, yes it is misleading. Put it proudly in the education section where it belongs. If it is going to have a positive impact it will do it from there.
- 0May 21, '12 by OCNRN63Quote from StephalumpI've had supervisors who had bachelor's or master's degrees in something else. When we'd get memos with the supervisor's name and credentials, I knew they were degrees in areas other than nursing. It's just not a big deal to me.Is her goal to force recruiters to be amazing readers, or is her goal to get a job? She stated that leaving rhetoric BS there led to her interview, which led to her further impressing the recruiter. How in the world can you impress someone who thinks you were dishonest?
No one said anything about not listing her achievements. That's what a resume is for. But, if what you're doing isn't working, consider changing it.
I suppose you can keep the BS to prove a point, but that won't pay the bills.
- 0May 21, '12 by Patti_RNYou should use the job specific initials after your name on your resume. In other words, if you have a Masters of Social Work and are applying for a nursing job you would NOT put MSW after your name, even though that degree trumps your RN or BSN. If you have an MSW and are applying for social work positions you wouldn't include RN after your name.
The job you are applying for may require a BSN; (for instance, hospitals that are magnet hospitals or trying to achieve that status) no matter how impressive you believe you can be in an interview they won't hire you if don't have that BSN. So, the manager may have felt deceived. She may have been looking for an applicant with a BSN and assumed you had one. The other problem with some of these initials is they can be confusing; if you list PA and are looking for a hospital job the reader of your resume might be familiar with these initials only in context of health care and assume you're a Physician's Assistant, but you're really a Project Administrator--and yes, the person who called that kind of PA in for an interview would be very annoyed, and feel very deceived.
Using initials after one's name is partially customary, somewhat situation specific, and is often regional. In most social situations using M.D. or JD or PhD after your name is pompous and pretentious--but relating to your career it's not only acceptable but expected--people would be very wary of being examined by someone who didn't have MD or DO or NP after their name (and by the same token, all these chiropractors who treat diseases arguably outside of their scope of practice do so by calling themselves "Doctor Smith" and allowing people to believe they are an MD). On resumes people applying for a job in their field often list BA or MFA after their name on resumes--for the convenience of the reader, but only if that degree is related to the job they are seeking. If you're a nurse with a law degree looking for a nursing job, you wouldn't use Jane Smith, RN, BSN, MFA, JD because the only applicable initials are the RN and BSN. Many nurses list a whole string of initials (ie: RN, BSN, MSN, CRNA, NP, DNP) after their name. There is a rule of subsumption that assumes if you have a DNP you probably have an MSN, and if you have an MSN you probably have a BSN, so those lower level qualifications are not necessary to include, hence you'd use RN, CRNA, NP, DNP (and depending whether you're applying for a NA job or an NP job you might put one first--otherwise the degree conferred first goes first in the alphabet soup (if you were an NP first, that would be first because of it was awarded first, chronologically).
The proper way to list credentials on your resume (or elsewhere, when appropriate) is from lowest to highest: Jennifer Martin, RN, CRNA, DNP--or in the case of the OP: Your Name, RN . Of course, in the catagory of 'education' you would certainly include your BS degree in biology.
- 0May 21, '12 by HeartsOpenWideQuote from gonzo1I agree. I actually have a BSN (not s BS) and I list my name Heartsopenwide RNC-BSNThe proper way to list is the most relevent, or highest degree first. So in your case it would be
Betty Boop, RN, BS
due to you applying for RN jobs RN first, then you can post your degrees such as BS. I do think a bachelors in Science is relevent to nursing and I would put it in.
- 2May 21, '12 by CT PixieQuote from patti_rnactually its highest degree earned to lowest and degrees before 'titles' such as rn.the proper way to list credentials on your resume (or elsewhere, when appropriate) is from lowest to highest: jennifer martin, rn, crna, dnp--or in the case of the op: your name, rn . of course, in the catagory of 'education' you would certainly include your bs degree in biology.
the preferred order is
highest earned degree
state designations or requirements
awards and honors
this order recommended?
"the education degree comes first because it is a 'permanent' credential, meaning it cannot be taken away except under extreme circumstances. the next two credentials (licensure and state designations/requirements) are required for you to practice. national certification is sometimes voluntary, and awards, honors, and other recognitions are always voluntary"
- 0May 21, '12 by GitanoRN Guidefirst of all congratulations on landing an interview, i would say that don't exclude your bs degree in biology you earned it therefore, it deserves to be mentioned. having said that, i'm in total agreement regarding the placement of degrees earned that's important, and if for some odd reason someone misinterprets your credentials or take them for granted you can enlighten them. on the other hand, i would give you props for your ingenuity, as i wish you the very best in all of you future endeavors...aloha~
- 1May 21, '12 by psu_213Quote from MN-NurseHuh? It's a degree she earned. If recruiters seem to find it confusing to have "BS" listed after her name, then remove it. Still keep it in the education section, just not on the 'title line,' so to speak.No, it's lying.
We can argue whether the BS in biology is relevant, but it is definitely not a lie.
- 0May 21, '12 by StephalumpQuote from OCNRN63It isn't a big deal to me, either. But I'm also not recruiting her.
I've had supervisors who had bachelor's or master's degrees in something else. When we'd get memos with the supervisor's name and credentials, I knew they were degrees in areas other than nursing. It's just not a big deal to me.
- 0May 21, '12 by PrincessRN101Quote from Asystole RNthe poster should just continue with her education, put RN at the end of her last name sometimes, and BS RN sometimes. just try it out, when you get an interview clarify all the details. and make the degree work for you, a Bachelor of Science in Biology is a big deal- just not in the nursing realm. Go back to school, do the bridging, or accelerated or 2 year BSN program and get your feet totally in the nursing world. So you have your BS BSN RN. You'd for sure get work that way... go back to schoolWhen identifying credentials you should utilize those credentials that are applicable to the position that you are attempting to obtain. That being said, I have seen BS utilized in nursing credentials often and I even think that it is very relevant to nursing. A degree does not have to be nursing in order to assist in the practice of nursing. This is why MBAs are common to see in RNs who hold positions of leadership.
- 0May 21, '12 by limonadaI don't think it is sneaky at all! I have seen managers that are RNs but have bachelor's or master's degrees in other fields, but in emails from them and on the sign on their office door they have their name and then RN, BA or RN, MA, or whatever degree they have. I have worked with nurses who have bachelor's in other fields and signed their names with RN, BS after it. I have a bachelor's in another field but I just sign my name with RN after it when I write nurse's notes, or anything else I need to sign. If the person reading your resume bothered to read the whole thing, they would see that you have a BS in another field. If you had a bachelor's in nursing, you would have written BSN, wouldn't you? So why would they assume your bachelor's was in nursing? I don't see what the big deal is, but I guess if so many people find it sneaky, we should consider changing our resumes...? Maybe just not put anything after our names and then just list our degrees in the education section... I don't know what to think because in my interviews, I never got the reaction you did-they were always just happy that I had a bachelor's...
I should add that my degree is also in a related field-psychology.Last edit by limonada on May 21, '12