Splitting pills outside of nurse's scope of practice?
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by thesundowner May 29, '12New at my hospital - nurses are no longer allowed to split pills. So, if we have a half dose to give, we have to call pharmacy and they have to split it for us/send it up to us (which takes approximately 100 hours because they are so swamped).
Do you split pills where you work?Poll: Are you allowed to split pills where you work?-
Yes, nurses can split pills.
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Nope - outside our scope of practice.
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Not supposed to - but I do anyway!
2.74% 4
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- May 29, '12 by Epic_RNNope, pharmacy splits pills for us too. Had a pt this weekend who was getting 50 mg of Nucynta every 4 hours and they were splitting 100 mg tablets. Pharmacist finally called and suggested Dr prescribe 100 mg every 6 hours lol... I guess he was tired of the hassle, too! :spin:lindarn likes this.
- May 29, '12 by classicdamewe have recently instituted a pharmacy waste program that includes wasting the other half )or whatever) in an appropriately colored bin. Cannot imagine what a hassle this must be. Have you checked to see if the BON considers it outside nurse scope of practice or is there something else behind this new rule?lindarn likes this.
- May 29, '12 by Been there,done thatI have split pills for a gajillion years. However. I can certainly see where it should be a pharmacy responsibility.
The strange shaped pills are impossible to split evenly and there are plenty out there that shouldn't be split at all.
Plus ,I'm all for sharing that responsibility... pharmacy will just have to develop a plan to deliver them in a timely fashion.
P.S. I love your hair! - May 29, '12 by Ashley, PICU RNWhat state are you in? It's certainly not outside the scope of practice of nurse's in my state.
Are you allowed to draw up an IV medication from a multi-dose vial? How about measure doses of liquid medication? We frequently crush medications, mix with liquid, and draw up the dose that we need. We also split our own pills, and draw up IV and PO medications from multi-dose vials. - May 29, '12 by beckster_01On our floor we recently found out we are no longer able to IVP metoprolol, labetalol, ativan, morphine, hydralazine.... the list goes on. Basically any medication that is usually needed quickly, we are now required to call an MD and have them push it for us, because a nurse isn't capable of watching the second hands on a clock to ensure that the medication is being given safely. In the words of our night float last night "how fast do I give it? They don't teach us this stuff in med school."
We are allowed to split our pills. The only reasonable explanation I can see for your policy is to reduce waste, which I can understand. But is cutting a pill in half really rocket science? - May 29, '12 by PCU_RN9Beckster, That is CRAZY! What type of floor do you work on? A general floor? Are ICU and ER nurses still allowed to push those drugs? I think that is so ridiculous!
- May 29, '12 by jrwestQuote from beckster_01omg that is the most rediculous thing I have heard. if thats the case they better plan on hiring more doctors. so if someone is seizing or on ciwa your supposed to just stand there and watch??until a dr decides to come strolling in? calla code on all these people with a HR in the 160's? bullcrap. talk about liability. i would have to quit if that was my place's policy. anyhow, sounds like they dont need nurses anymore.On our floor we recently found out we are no longer able to IVP metoprolol, labetalol, ativan, morphine, hydralazine.... the list goes on. Basically any medication that is usually needed quickly, we are now required to call an MD and have them push it for us, because a nurse isn't capable of watching the second hands on a clock to ensure that the medication is being given safely. In the words of our night float last night "how fast do I give it? They don't teach us this stuff in med school."
We are allowed to split our pills. The only reasonable explanation I can see for your policy is to reduce waste, which I can understand. But is cutting a pill in half really rocket science? - May 29, '12 by not.done.yetThat is goofy as heck. Pharmacy can't manage to get things to us on time as it is.
- May 29, '12 by jrwestwhere I am not only are we expected to split our own pills, now they want us mixing up some of our iv meds also. we used to get the amiodarone bolus made up for us in pharm- now theysay we have to mix it. a few other meds now too.