I am wating to go into lpn class with a felony

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Hello I have been on here reading all sucess stories and some sad stories about people trying to get the RN or lpn license I am in the same situation I have not even entered the class yet but I really do want to have 3 prior misamendor and 1 felony that can not be expunge at all so I can nto let me down right I have done that for so long they say you can go to the class but some schools can turn you down and some will not I live in ohio but my be thinking to move somewhere else so I can be a nurse I just really d not know what to do if there is anyone out there can give me some input on there same situation I would love to hear it.I also know that you have to tell the borad everything and that what I want to do to be honest so I am here if anyway can share there story or advice to me and share the state or city there are in so I can look it up to thanks

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FYI read the definition of assault, and it does not necessarily mean bringing body harm onto someone. If you threaten someone then you have assaulted them. Get your facts straight.

But, in your post, you stated: Also, a friend of hers in the nursing program had SIX felony convictions for assault, bsttery, bugulary and the list goes on and she was granted her license and she now works.

...so the "facts are straight".

Let's not make this discussion personal and keep debating the topic instead. When it's personalized, tempers flare and the thread derails.

Thank you.

As an adult if you physically harm a human being out of anger you shouldn't be a nurse. Drugs; if you entered a rehabilitation center and have drugs tests routinely, there should be some leniency. I've know nurses that smoke pot, threaten to beat people up, act so childish I'm wondering "who they lay."

Ohio-they're too strict ppl make mistakes. Get over it!

Finding a nursing job with a felony in 2011? LOL Ain't gonna happen.

In my town you won't get on at Walmart. Convenience stores? Forget it.

Call centers? No way. Independent McDonald's franchise? Maybe.

10- and 15-year-old misdemeanors mean no job---anywhere, let alone nursing.

Employer's market with 5-6 people per position available. Young, 25-35-year old model types with squeaky clean backgrounds.

Truck driving. That's it.

Now... my neighbor lady is a drug addict (crack, meth, pills,etc.) who has a rap sheet a mile long-- in fact her poor husband sold his Harley just last year to post her bail for stealing cell phones to sell and buy drugs with--- became a pharmecy tech (no, I'm not making this up) and got a job at CVS. However, she is a Loni Anderson lookalike that also found a way to cheat at bingo, making a fortune before all the bingo halls figured it out.

So, there are exceptions; but, I'm telling you, the lady in the above example is really a professional con artist(my neighbor for 22 years). I'm talking genius. Any other drug addict would not get a job as a pharmecy tech.

Save yourself the heartache.

What state do u reside in? If you have had a personal experience with not being able to get a job because of a record then you have a firsthand experience, or if you are mayor/governor you personally know all the people in your town and have extensive knowledge of their criminal background history?!? There could be hundreds of people in your town you don't know that have a criminal history and are working.

Hi i am a 40yrs old cna and i just got recertified last year. In the past i went str8 to college from highschool graduated with honors. when i was 20yrs old i got a felony and and i dropped out because i was told i could be a RN i had missed up by friend after going for 3 yrs. Then when i was 28yrs old i got jumped by 5 fat women was beatin with poles and i stabbed one of them with a box cutter to get them out of me then i got other felony it was self-defense but my retended lawyer said there was no self-defense law in michigan and they were on my property. I cry all the time because im such a loving person i was protecting my children and my home. I was so upset i was working at chrysler that i didnt call in. I lost my job for being m.i.a. it been 12 to 13 yrs and i still want to go to school but don't know if i can and you help me with some answer please?

You can contact BON; some people think they are intimidating, but they are willing to help.

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as an adult if you physically harm a human being out of anger you shouldn't be a nurse. drugs; if you entered a rehabilitation center and have drugs tests routinely, there should be some leniency. i've know nurses that smoke pot, threaten to beat people up, act so childish i'm wondering "who they lay."

ohio-they're too strict ppl make mistakes. get over it!

what does "who they lay" mean? in regards to physical harm out of anger vs drug abuse, consider this true story. about a year ago as a fairly new pct, i walked onto my floor one morning to a pt who had been screaming in pain for most of the night. the rn assigned to him spent most of the morning going back and forth between his room and the telephone attempting to get a dr. to come in and increase his morphine. she kept talking very loudly saying things like, 'poor man, the med is not working, i'm trying to get him more', in the meantime this pt was in agony. i witnessed the rn and the dr. discussing the med increase and i overheard her tell the dr. that it wasn't enough. i also witnessed her going into his room with a syringe but the patient kept screaming all throughout my shift.

the next morning i came in and the pt had expired in the night, i had to do his post-mortem care and while i did it i replayed the previous day in my mind and wondered if that nurse had diverted his med. there were other behaviours contributing to my suspicion but it was just that, a suspicion...however, i felt very disturbed at how this man screamed in agony until his death. fast forward to now and in the midst of the layoffs and bumping going on i notice that i haven't seen that rn in some months. when i asked about her, lo and behold, she was caught diverting and given an opportunity for rehab. i don't know if she completed the rehab or not but she hasn't been back since.

my question is, even in the face of an incurable disease such as addiction is how is the morality of allowing someone to make their final transition in agony more acceptable than the person who physically harms someone in a fit of anger? the addict is given rehab, why can't the harmer get anger management? to me, it's especially egregious because the rn has already gone through school and learned about bioethics, took the oath and is aware that their license is at stake. why is it more acceptable to just be given rehab when diversion is a factor even though the pt that was in physical pain is harmed by this action?

what i suspect this particular rn of doing would require a conscious decision to harm someone whereas a fit of anger is just that, a fit. listen, i'm not advocating that all people who have harmed someone should be nurses, i'm just pointing out those circumstances and mitigating factors have to be included in these blanket decisions that most people have about who should be nurses and who shouldn't.

what does "who they lay" mean? in regards to physical harm out of anger vs drug abuse, consider this true story. about a year ago as a fairly new pct, i walked onto my floor one morning to a pt who had been screaming in pain for most of the night. the rn assigned to him spent most of the morning going back and forth between his room and the telephone attempting to get a dr. to come in and increase his morphine. she kept talking very loudly saying things like, 'poor man, the med is not working, i'm trying to get him more', in the meantime this pt was in agony. i witnessed the rn and the dr. discussing the med increase and i overheard her tell the dr. that it wasn't enough. i also witnessed her going into his room with a syringe but the patient kept screaming all throughout my shift.

the next morning i came in and the pt had expired in the night, i had to do his post-mortem care and while i did it i replayed the previous day in my mind and wondered if that nurse had diverted his med. there were other behaviours contributing to my suspicion but it was just that, a suspicion...however, i felt very disturbed at how this man screamed in agony until his death. fast forward to now and in the midst of the layoffs and bumping going on i notice that i haven't seen that rn in some months. when i asked about her, lo and behold, she was caught diverting and given an opportunity for rehab. i don't know if she completed the rehab or not but she hasn't been back since.

my question is, even in the face of an incurable disease such as addiction is how is the morality of allowing someone to make their final transition in agony more acceptable than the person who physically harms someone in a fit of anger? the addict is given rehab, why can't the harmer get anger management? to me, it's especially egregious because the rn has already gone through school and learned about bioethics, took the oath and is aware that their license is at stake. why is it more acceptable to just be given rehab when diversion is a factor even though the pt that was in physical pain is harmed by this action?

what i suspect this particular rn of doing would require a conscious decision to harm someone whereas a fit of anger is just that, a fit. listen, i'm not advocating that all people who have harmed someone should be nurses, i'm just pointing out those circumstances and mitigating factors have to be included in these blanket decisions that most people have about who should be nurses and who shouldn't.

it means what it says! if a person not matter nurse or not has had an addiction problem which i know of one who was addicted to pain killers after back surgery, she got addicted and she got help..she is a great nurse so why can't she be one...humans make mistakes. if you are purposely causing harm to another person then they shouldn't be in healthcare.

what i am saying is getting help through rehabilitation, constant drug screens, and positive reinforcement.

Specializes in Float.

Are you saying that an RN who diverts pain meds is not purposefully causing harm? Also, there's no need to yell, I still don't understand what type of slang is 'who they lay'. In any case, what I'm saying is that causing harm comes in many formats & each one can be just as devastating as laying hands on someone. Consider someone in healthcare diverting pain meds or anxiety meds from a pt going into surgery.

Specializes in Education, FP, LNC, Forensics, ED, OB.
I still don't understand what type of slang is 'who they lay'.

It's a vulgar way of saying someone is "sleeping with someone in a power position" in order to escape judgement/punishment, etc.

Specializes in Float.

Oh! Thxs.

I'm talking about someone who went through rehab and is functional and healthy. What does diverting meds has to do w it. I was completely confused by your post. If someone does something in the line of work, yes that's a No no. If it was in their past give them a chance. No human is perfect I guess.

Specializes in Float.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying as well. I understood your post to be general as far as physical harm but specific in regard to drug use. The addict can get rehab but if you physically harm someone, rehab is not even raised.

I used diverting as an example because of the close relationship between nurses and drug accessibility. The progressiveness of addiction is such that people take more & more risks to acquire the substance of choice & rarely get help unless they are caught and forced to.

My point is that the adult who physically harms someone, receives help (rehab) & years later wants to go into nursing is given a worse time than the addict who rehabs & also decides to go into nursing. I submit that the potential danger is the same for both because the addict can relapse and in that case, diversion is a very real possibility.

I did not wish to confuse you & I hope I've made myself clearer. It seems to me that lay people will repeatedly mention addicts in union with rehab, but to them someone who abused someone stands alone, as if rehab is not possible.

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I have to disagree with Tiger in regards to not being able to find a job with 10- and 15-year-old misdemeanors

I have a rap sheet a mile long of misdemeanors (no felonies) and I have been able to find jobs.

As a matter of fact, I am about to embark on a new and scary journey of quitting this job to become a nurse. I am not a nurse, but the point is I have been able to find jobs.

The great job I have now has afforded me a home, cars, etc...

I had to complete an extensive background check to get this job and it turned out okay because I'm still employed there.

And no I do not work for minimum wage (not knocking you if you do) I work for a fortune 500 company holding a leadership position.

I had to list everything that I was convicted of (I did not have to disclose arrests because they only asked for convictions)

Yes it was scary and I felt embarrassed. However, I was honest and gave them only what they asked for and I also outlined the steps I have taken to show that I don't repeat those mistakes and how I want to put the past behind me.

My advise to anyone looking for a job doing anything legal is to be honest when asked about felonies, arrest, misdemeanors, etc and don't repeat the same mistake. It also helps if you seek some sort of counseling, rehab, anger management, etc....so that you don't make the same mistakes and be upfront and let your employer know that this keeps you in line.

Don't do it if you want it to look good because lies will catch up with you but if you do it because you honestly do not want to make the same mistakes then you will be fine.

You never know, the person at the receiving end of your job application can very well have a rap sheet too.

I'm not sure if I will be able to get a nursing license but the only way I will know for sure is to try. No one, not even the board can give you the green light that you will get in because everything is done on a case by case basis.

Am I confident I will get in? Hell no!!! Am I scared as what? Of course I am!!! You would be too if you were about to quit a job that pays good money and wants to promote you, had a mortgage, bills, are a single parent, and still needs to find a way to get health insurance for a child that has asthma while unemployed going to school for nursing.

What I can do is tell you though, is that if you are a sex offender with any type of conviction or even not having a conviction, you can pretty much kiss the dream of nursing good-bye.

I found that out when a nursing school told me what types of cases were getting rejected by hospitals to complete clinicals.

Since I do not fit that description, I knew that I may have chance :yeah:

Business and Nursing are two VERY different fields, and I highly doubt that anyone with a "rap sheet a mile long" will be able to get a job in Nursing when there are so many clean-cut, well-behaved new grads without so much as a speeding ticket on their record.

Also, business has a bunch of sleaze balls. The standards of professionalism is a lot lower in the world of business than in Nursing. You could be a convict and build a massive, successful company, but you will not find a job in this field.

Sorry.

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