Restraints - page 2
I have a question about something that I observed on the floor the other day. If a restraint order is set to expire at 0730 and the doctor does not renew until 0900, what do you do for those 1.5... Read More
Jul 30Quote from elkparkIn a way, yes of course there is a huge difference, but they are also two interventions that directly ensure the patient's safety, the paperwork that reflects those interventions is not. If you realize the renewal is late you have two choices; remove the restraints and directly expose your patients to harm, or get the order renewed, the choice seems pretty clear.There is a huge different between life-sustaining medical treatment and restraints.
Jul 30Quote from chareI completely agree that the nurse needs to get the order renewed as quickly as possible, but the solution is not to instead remove the restraints avoid needing the renewal.The expectation, once the order has been written, is that the nurse and physician determine the continued need for restraints and ensure that the order has been renewed in a timely fashion. When the restraint order is written, it should include criteria for removal. If or when these criteria are met, the nurse should remove the restraints, and either discontinues the order per protocol, or if not allowed to do so, notify the physician that the order needs to be discontinued.
Regarding an expired order; if the nurse caring for the patient continues the restraints, as is likely to happen, he or she needs to be aware that the patient is no longer compliant with current restraint guidelines and should have the order renewed/rewritten as soon as possible as there is no grace period for compliance once the order has expired.
Jul 30Quote from MunoRNIt's true nurses should not allow a restraint order to lapse. Neither should providers. But it happens.I completely agree that the nurse needs to get the order renewed as quickly as possible, but the solution is not to instead remove the restraints avoid needing the renewal.
CMS considers a remove/re-apply as a second, distinct episode (unless they are briefly removed for purposes of supervised ADLs or circulation/skin checks).
If I came to work and my patient was in restraints without an order (expired), and there was a delay in getting the provider to respond, the restraints could be discontinued/observe the patient/re-apply if neededed= second episode, rationale: restraints were applied for safety and the provider has one hour to call back.
Not ideal, but the patient is safe.
Jul 31In cases like these I feel there is a systems failure. Where I have worked I have facilitated "RESTRAINTS RENEWAL" in the OE to flag to the MD that the order needs to be renewed.....BEFORE the order expires.
If I came in to an expired restraints order and I feel the patient is in need of them....I call the MD and get the renewal order.
Aug 8Quote from elkparkNot if the pt would be trying to self-extubate or rip out their lines while unrestrained. Not always the case, but for some pts it is a true safety issue. Personally I'd rather defend my use of the restraints than defend my failure to keep my now-dead or anoxic pt safeThere is a huge difference between life-sustaining medical treatment and restraints.