Why do so many nurses from the Philippines come to Canada/USA? - page 3
I hope nobody takes offense to this question because I certainly don't mean it in any negative way. I am just wondering why so many nurses from the Philippines are coming to Canada and the USA? I always thought the... Read More
- 3Mar 16, '11 by kevin goh i just read the 1st page and figured I'd just chime in, i didn't even see the dispute on the 2nd page, everything seemed so civil at first lol
ya there are a lot of us, but it doesn't mean we are illegal. Hell like all the Filipinos i know (here in Cali) are born in the US and we just picked nursing as our profession. Older generation Filipinos may have accents, but that doesn't mean they are illegalLast edit by kevin g on Mar 16, '11
- 3Mar 16, '11 by KhloRN2beThe plain and simple answer is that the US aggressively recruited nurses from the Philippines and it became a way to immigrate to the US. US immigration was and still is a big deal to Filipinos, so if the demand was for nurses, you became a nurse. Filipinos also work in other countries such as Singapore, Japan, UK and middle eastern countries mainly because the pay is better than in the country.
I happen to be Filipino but I'm a US citizen. Just happened to choose this profession.
- 11Mar 16, '11 by LongislandLPNShocker: I think that Canadians or US citizens should be given first accommodation as far as job opportunities are concerned. There are many of our citizens without employment who are nurses. I think our governments have limited work visas for foreigners and hope they continue to do so and eventually stop.
- 5Mar 16, '11 by evolvingrnQuote from LongislandLPNShocker: I think that Canadians or US citizens should be given first accommodation as far as job opportunities are concerned. There are many of our citizens without employment who are nurses. I think our governments have limited work visas for foreigners and hope they continue to do so and eventually stop.
That's fine but just because someone is Filipino in background does not mean they are not American or Canadian as well and they should have an equal opportunity to compete for those jobs. People also immigrate to the united states every year in a lot of countries very educated people come over but their degrees are useless here but in this case their training is equivalent (and some might argue superior) to the US nurse training program therefore they are able to viably compete for jobs.
- 22Mar 16, '11 by RL657Both my husband and I are Filipino nurses who are now working and living in Canada. Fortunately enough,we arrived here as immigrants.We both took the exam and passed it the first time we took it and found work right away in an acute hospital.I am very thankful that before we came here my husband did a lot of studying about how to register as a nurse and how to integrate successfully.We did not have much problems that many experienced when they arrived unprepared.I know of many nurses from the Philippines who are working as nurses in the Middle East and arrived here as live-in caregivers.
I did both teaching in a college of nursing and working in the hospital at the same time in the Philippines. Many of my former students became nurses for the reason that they believed that Canada and the US offers better pay. US of A is the ultimate destination.That sounded like a statement from a travel agency.Therefore ,what follows would be a better future.The working situation right now is deplorable.Nurses are being paid poorly. Imagine working in a unit where there are only 3 RNs and 40 patients in a government hospital.It is absolutely unsafe and to make it worst many colleges of nursing are popping out everywhere leading to mass production of nursing graduates.No work can be found for them and that is horrible.
Another sad thought is that most Filipinos who are taking up nursing are being encouraged by their own families either in the Philippines or in Canada and the US to take up nursing.They believed that if one takes up nursing it is a ticket way out of the poverty that exists right now.I came across students who was forced to take up nursing due to the above mentioned reason and never really appreciating what is nursing all about.They simply don't have the clue of what awaits them.Another scenario that is occurring right now is that many parents (I have nothing against them personally), even if they know their children does not have what it takes to be a nurse ,kept on pushing them and simply believing that they will pass the licensure exam . If they fail the first time ,the parents would just say there is always the next time.I don't intend to be sarcastic but this is just my own observation that some parents have blinded themselves to the reality and deluded themselves of the capacity of their children.I know they want a better future for their kids but I truly believe that in this type of scenario we must braced ourselves to the reality of what they can do and what they cant.
So many new graduates with less hospital experience and lesser chances of working in hospitals.Everyone in the Philippines thinks that working abroad is the best way to have a better life.I know that a lot of new graduates were hired in some provinces such as Saskatchewan and Alberta who do not have enough experience at all.Filipino nurses tends to think that the country is producing the so called"best nurses" in the world,that is why many countries are hiring them.The media,the government and the educators are just simply not helping in that scenario. They don't seem to understand that the phrase "best nurses in the world" is offending to other nurses coming from other countries.It is implying that the other nurses who are not from the Philippines are none better.It is not intentional on their part but they should consider the feelings of other nurses and do some reading about this topic. I know Filipino nurses are good nurses and they work hard but that doesn't mean other nurses are not like that.
I hope I am able to share some insights through this post. I love the nursing profession and I respect everyone and anyone who earns the title of an RN whether they came from the Philippines or anywhere else.
- 5Mar 16, '11 by mba2bsnThe First Nations Indians were the first settlers of Canada before the Europeans immigrated to Canada. If you are one of the decendants of First Nations Indians then you have the authority to be upset to all people who are immigrating to Canada. Additionally, why not ask your fellow Canadian nurses who are working in the US on NAFTA-TN visa if they are stealing the jobs that should belong to Americans ? Should the American new grad nurses also blame the Canadian nurses because they can't find a job to pay their student loans and putting food on the table to feed their families ?
- 27Mar 16, '11 by nursel56 GuideQuote from agldragonrni'm sorry - but this attitude is not helpful to anyone, no matter whether they come from the phillipines or anywhere else. she was very careful to word her post carefully so as not to offend anyone. she never uttered even a hint of a problem with ethnicity, and it is posts like this that build walls between people.why are so many people here on allnurses always asking this? what's next? why are there so many black nurses? why are there so many hispanics nurses? back in the days when we had the "nursing shortage", the u.s. government were begging filipino nurses to come to america. they automatically got "green cards" instantly including their families. that's how my mom and several of my aunts got here. and now that there is no more nursing shortage, you want to kick them to the curb?
why is it sad that you work more with filipino nurses than your fellow canadians? is it the filipino nurses fault that many canadians are out of work? how do you know they are not canadian citizens already?
these filipino nurses enter your country legally and your board of nursing issued these nurses licenses, so what is the problem?
i've been on this forum for a long time, and i do not see where nurses are "always" asking this. please take a breath next time you decide to have a knee-jerk over-reaction to someone who asked a question that i feel, and i think many other filipino nurses would also feel, didn't have a damn thing to do with prejudice or racism until you brought that ugliness into it. now i will attempt to continue as if you never derailed the thread with your issues.
- 16Mar 16, '11 by nursel56 GuideQuote from lilacloverI don't think being curious about this is wrong. I've wondered the same thing myself. I can tell you tried to phrase it in a sensitive manner and thank you to all the Filipino nurses who responded in kind and helped shed some light on this.It doesn't matter at all. I don't care about race, that has nothing to do with it. I said nothing about race and frankly I really like working with all of the Phillipino nurses I have worked with. I am just curious as to what the draw is for them to North America?
The reason I have never asked this question before despite my curiosity is for the exact reason you just brought up. People always bring up the race thing. If I had asked why do so many nurses from England(not the case) move here nobody would flinch.
But I am going to let my curiosity get the better of me and hope for some honest responses.
We wonder about it (or I do anyway) because from my standpoint in the US anyway, especially where I live, we have large communities of people who come from other countries that have the same basic problems at home that people in the Phillipines have, and yet there is a unique representation of Filipinos in nursing that people from other economically depressed countries do not have.
I'm certain the ties can be traced to the World War II years in some way, but we've had similar relationships with others that don't do this so obviously it is a combination of factors. Those who have shared that multiple members of their families are nurses - I think that is fantastic. I wish all of us had that much fellowship and support from their family as you do. Lots of us have to deal with skeptical or downright derogatory remarks from our families.
Honestly sometimes I'm even a little uncomfortable when people say that "they are good workers, they are industrious, etc" because though it is a compliment it's also a generalization which isn't good unless it's about how awesome California girls are and then it's true. That was a lame attempt at humor. I try really hard to approach everyone I meet with a blank slate. Our minds usually contain a hodgepodge of impressions we get from anywhere and everywhere though, so I try to notice when I might be subconsciously being too judgemental. I'm human. None of us are perfect. How about we cut each other some slack when we inadvertently blunder in our wording. No harm meant.
- 0Mar 16, '11 by NurseOnAMotorcycleSo tired of hearing "mexicans are stealing our jobs", "chinese are stealing our jobs", "(insert race/religion/nationality here) are stealing our jobs."
The honest truth is that providing a visa for a single foreigner to work is a giant pain in the behind, and 99% of companies do NOT want to go through that headache.Last edit by NurseOnAMotorcycle on Mar 16, '11 : Reason: angry rant delete
- 4Mar 16, '11 by madfowlIt must be very hard for the OP to understand the desire to travel and see the world. I am guessing that the OP has never been out the 50 mile radius of her small town. Why dont you try to leave the tiny box that you live in and go get a job in Alaska, or Hawaii, or the Phillipines? Just for the experience?Last edit by madfowl on Mar 16, '11