What happens if we DON'T recommend nursing as a career?

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    Please recommend nursing to the smartest, kindest people you know!

    I'll be retiring in about 20 years and would like some skilled, caring nurses left working to take care of me and my children and my children's children! Please!

    It's important to list the benifits of nursing just as much as the difficulties. I started as a CNA at the bedside, "fell in love" with direct patient care, and have been at the bedside now for over 26 years, working ICU, ER, & Labor and Delivery. I love my job and my patients. I struggle as much as anyone with the long hours, relatively low pay, physical fatigue, emotional stress...but I wouldn't trade jobs with anyone for all the tea in China!

    Again, recommend nursing as a career....a nurse can do many many things these days beside hospital bedside nursing, if they decide they don't like that. We need more smart, kind people in the profession.

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    It is good to hear that "caring" nurses are still valued! I am a nursing student who has just begun the "nursing" part of her education. On the first day of one of my classes the instructor said "...nurses tend to eat their young..." This has made me uneasy about my first clinical rotation. Yes, I'm enthusiastic. Yes, I'm looking at the nursing profession through rose-colored glasses. Yes, I have lots of caring energy to give. As a student and hopefully a new grad, will I be faulted in the work place for these qualities? Or, will veteran nurses welcome a fresh can-do attitude? I know I will welcome their wisdom of experience. I wonder why my instuctor made a point to tell this to our class? Was it an attempt to toughen us up for what lies ahead? Well, I refuse to be "toughened" up! I am a caring person, and I would like to stay that way!
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    It's good to keep your enthusiam because there will be days when you won't feel it! I personally wouldn't choose any other career, on the other hand, when someone asks me about if they should go in nursing, I'm careful what I say. Nursing is something that you should love to do, not something to pay the bills, I don't feel it's fair to the patients or your co-workers. And yes my experience has been that some nurses do eat your young, on the other hand some nurses go out of their way to help and support. See my posting in general nursing discussion re; work hassles and team spirit. Keep your chin up and don't let the 'eating young types' rob you of your joy!
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    First off, let me say that I in no way intend this reply as a personal attack on anyone in this thread. My opinion is mine and a previous post by Saphie just didn't sit well with me. I feel that nurses have the same rights as any other human being who has a job. The SHOULD be able to pay their bills...

    "Nursing is something that you should love to do, not something to pay the bills"

    Um, okay... I love to go fishing. Some people love to get drunk, others love bicycling and others love watching daytime TV. I had a cousin once who loved Heroin but he overdosed....

    HELLO??? Does anyone have a problem here with this statement?

    "Nursing is something that you should love to do, not something to pay the bills"

    When I am sick and in the hospital I need a professional who had a good nights sleep the night before taking care of me and I need a professional who can get a good nights sleep because they can afford to pay their bills and feed their kids. I need someone who can take care of me who is COMPETENT and CAPABLE of doing their job, not someone who merely enjoys or loves taking care of sick people. I need someone capable of making the correct decisions in an instant, I need someone who can calculate the correct dosage of whatever lifesaving medication I might need. I need someone who can rapidly assess my physical status. I need a professional who is inteligent, healthy, well rested and capable of doing a good job- all the time, not someone who merely "loves their job". I think that they call those people "candystripers".

    Professional nurses DESERVE the right just like any other human being whether they love their job or not, to be able to pay their bills. WE ARE PROFESSIONALS, WE HAVE THE FREAKING RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO PAY OUR BILLS!!!

    NURSING is a profession, not a hobby. Lets get paid for it, or is that to much to ask?
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    Originally posted by nursedude:
    I feel that nurses have the same rights as any other human being who has a job. The SHOULD be able to pay their bills...

    NURSING is a profession, not a hobby. Lets get paid for it, or is that to much to ask?
    Nursedude, where have you been? We are all waiting for your comments on the Chicago Trib article on the killer nurses. We would also like to hear from you on this article, http://www.revolutionmag.com/engineering.html
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    WOW. What an article! I have actually been thinking the same thing as far as the hospital that I work in complaining of the nursing shortage, and me saying You created it with your downsizing and lay offs. I didn't have all the information of this article but it was fairly obvious to me. The only problem is hospitals are owned by large corporations that know nothing of healthcare and focus solely on the bottom line, regardless of what they say. Until the public becomes aware and forces change RN's can only hope. It is a shame this article and articles like this are available only on these sites, for all of us that already know the of the problem and have tried in vain for years to improve it from "the inside". Thanks for sharing that article, never knew of that site or that mag, needless to say I am a new subscriber.
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    Oramar,

    You know my stance on the whole deal with Nursing...

    I believe that perceptions like "Nursing is something that you should love to do, not something to pay the bills" is part of the problem that the "Engineering a Shortage" article fails to mention...For some reason, nurses who have the attitude that they shouldn't be able to pay their bills do nothing more than make an already bad situation worse...Those nurses are the types who make the executives at hospitals happy because they allow themselves to be cut short- short on staffing, short on patient care, and short in the wallet. I think that we as professionals need to stand up and earn what is rightfully ours- it's not a crime to be able to earn more than enough money to pay your bills! Nurses are NOT servants, we are professionals who are worth our weight in gold.

    I also believe that this current "nursing shortage" will not go away as it has in the past- not until nurses are paid more for what they do.

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    Hi HazeK,
    I think that you and the others make some very good points in your posts. I agree that caring, compassion, competence, confidence, capability, as well as ability are attributes that a nurse should have at the bedside. But, I also feel that flexibility and adaptability carry more weight in the long run. Nursedude, for instance, if a nurse just emphasized confidence and capability and the nurse happened to be female, the customer, for the most part, would be turned off (rightly or wrongly, nurses are expected to be motherly toward the patient, physician, and support staff). This is also true for female physicians. In most societies, it is the woman that bears the burden of demonstrating "nuturing" characteristics due to cultural considerations. Perhaps the level of respect and pay for nurses would improve if more men were recruited into the profession. Working conditions would also improve once men who are, at this writing, the leaders of the world and thus the health care cost system, changed their mentality of inappropriately subordinating women. It's got to start somewhere. How about it nursedude?
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    Mijourney,

    I can't help but wonder, did you just come out of the narcotics cabinet? Not only did your post make me laugh I find it extremely sexist and discriminatory..."Working conditions would also improve once men who are, at this writing, the leaders of the world and thus the health care cost system, changed their mentality of inappropriately subordinating women."

    Don't you see? It's not "men who own the world" who inappropriately subordinate women- rather its women like Saphie who believe -"Nursing is something that you should love to do, not something to pay the bills" that subordinate themselves!!!

    Also, something else that makes me question your level of conciousness is your statement -"Perhaps the level of respect and pay for nurses would improve if more men were recruited into the profession." Umm, okay, just how do you expect to magically recruit more men into a profession where it's "something that you should love to do, not something to pay the bills"? As a man I had to leave my fulltime position as a RN because I could not support my wife and kids on the salary that an RN earns! What "men" do you plan on recruiting to make the pay and level of respect increase???

    Also, what the heck are you talking about when you say "if a nurse just emphasized confidence and capability and the nurse happened to be female, the customer, for the most part, would be turned off (rightly or wrongly, nurses are expected to be motherly toward the patient, physician, and support staff). This is also true for female physicians." Isn't that just a tad bit discriminatory??? Motherly??? I'm sorry, I was NEVER motherly toward any patient, physician or support staff(compassionate and empathetic yes)- Lactation ends at an early age where I come from!!!
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    Hi nursedude,
    glad you responded. Those of us who have posted for a while know that you seem to enjoy responding in an adversarial manner depending on the poster and the topic. It gets our juices going, and that's good if civility is left in the details.
    I will tell you that I agree with your assessment that my statements could be taken as discriminatory and sexist. But then again, your assessment of Saphie's response could be equally construed the same. Discrimination and sexism, unfortunately, I feel has greatly impacted the progress of nursing. Nurses have been discriminated against for decades regarding working conditions and pay, mainly because it is a profession predominated by females; it's a generalist profession; and there are a lot of nurses to boot. Men have predominated the roles of CEO and president of hospitals and health care facilities for decades. Men predominate all branches of the government from local to federal. Until recently, men predominated the medical and law profession. These people directly impact us when decisions are made regarding the hows, whens, why, and how much. We need outspoken, articulate people like you to constantly disrupt the comfort zones of these officials to get the point home that you did not like, if you're no longer in nursing, or don't like working in a profession where only peanuts, chips, and dip are served (this is hypothetical). You want to work in a profession that serves meat, cake, and ice cream. I can't blame you for that. But don't fault HazeK, Saphie and others who came into nursing perhaps with a different focus then you did. As far as miracles are concerned, it would not take a miracle to try to recruit one man or child into the nursing profession. You just have to have the right attitude realizing that it may take a while and you may need help in your efforts. Mentoring or grooming a young person for the nursing profession does not require a miracle to perform.


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