New Grad RN-->No Jobs, Then what? - page 5

I have been reading through these threads and haven't seen an answer to this question. I know that it is tough to get a new grad RN position and some say they are still looking after a year post... Read More

  1. Visit  caliotter3} profile page
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    Quote from StrawberryBanana
    I don't think you're an evil foreigner and I don't have anything against foreigners. I understand where you are coming from.

    My main idea is: Our economy is in absolute shambles. We should take care of our citizens first. We *should* favor U.S. graduates over foreign graduates. No more exporting and importing....too many people are jobless and it's silly.
    This post sums it up nicely.
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  3. Visit  tothepointeLVN} profile page
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    Also it is a waste of education resources to allow people to train for a profession so specific as nursing if there are not enough jobs to go around. An English major has much more flexibility than a nursing grad. We are in relativity very fixed in our potential employments. We are trained to be nurses. Full stop.

    I will give you a little story about how something like this was handled in my former home country NZ. I had a friend who was a NZ citizen but lived and trained in Sweden and was an Optomotrist. When he moved to NZ to work they denied him a license on the basis that there was sufficient numbers of optomotrists to met the countries need and he was advised to retrain in another occupation. Was it fair to him no but they did have a point.

    Unfortunately this probably would never become the norm here but maybe when nursing school was harder to get into we were training the appropriate number of nurses.
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    That's very true..but I don't see it happening anytime soon as it is all about the $$$ over here in the USA. They could care less about the repercussions..apparently.
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  5. Visit  ImThatGuy} profile page
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    I'll probably keep doing what I've been doing (which I like) if I can't find a full-time RN/BSN job suitable to my palate. I'll look into getting some per diem stuff, but around here I've yet to see the crunch in healthcare. Also, school is cheap down here so with the short time I'll actually be in it shouldn't be that big of a deal.
  6. Visit  whewWeWon1} profile page
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    @I'mThatGuy: Please tell me what city your talking about where there is not a problem for NEW GRAD RN's getting a job. City and State.. Thanks a MILLION.. I need a job and cannot find one AT ALL!!! NO New Grad jobs and if there is one they get between 300 to 1,100 applications per position. I have LVN experience and a RN License.. 3.75 GPA, Volunteering for the PD in my area, victim advocacy, etc etc.. fab references yada yada.. NO JOB.
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    Quote from whewWeWon1
    @I'mThatGuy: Please tell me what city your talking about where there is not a problem for NEW GRAD RN's getting a job. City and State.. Thanks a MILLION.. I need a job and cannot find one AT ALL!!! NO New Grad jobs and if there is one they get between 300 to 1,100 applications per position. I have LVN experience and a RN License.. 3.75 GPA, Volunteering for the PD in my area, victim advocacy, etc etc.. fab references yada yada.. NO JOB.
    Well, where are you looking? 300 - 1000 apps per position? Must be a large city. I'm in Arkansas.
  8. Visit  Shantay34} profile page
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    Not sure which is worse... our manufacturing jobs going overseas and US citizens losing jobs... or non-US citizens coming here filling jobs positions and US citizens losing jobs.
  9. Visit  joanna73} profile page
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    Wow. I feel for all of you that have been looking. Just keep going and be persistent. I knew the economy was not good, but this is unbelievable, since there is a real shortage of nurses, and no one seems to want to hire new grads. I am a Canadian educated nurse, just graduated, with a BSCN. I'm in the process of studying for my Boards in October, and starting to feel out the job market.

    I've been through these recessionary times before. It's a cycle, and it can't last. It never does, and people are getting older, and sicker, so they will need nurses very soon. After reading these posts, I might suggest that if you are looking, take the first thing that comes up. Take anything. Register with an agency. Agencies hire new grads. Network. Go to some places in person near your home. Move, if you have to.

    That's my plan. I want to work as a nurse. I need to work, because I am getting old, and I have loans. I will go wherever the job is, if that is the case. Canada, US, Australia.....wherever there is a job. Because the stupid thing is, after you have worked for a year to a year and a half, you aren't a "NEW GRAD" anymore.

    Good luck to all of you. It sucks that we are in this position. And it's insane, really, because there is a need for nurses, but no money....
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  10. Visit  joanna73} profile page
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    Just a comment regarding earlier posts about foreign educated nurses taking away jobs in the US. I can see how you would be frustrated, but Canada is also doing the same thing. One of the reasons that the US has always hired Canadian educated nurses is because of the education that we require as an RN. The minimum is a 4 year degree now, including about 2000 hours of clinical time.
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  11. Visit  whewWeWon1} profile page
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    Quote from joanna73
    Wow. I feel for all of you that have been looking. Just keep going and be persistent. I knew the economy was not good, but this is unbelievable, since there is a real shortage of nurses, and no one seems to want to hire new grads. I am a Canadian educated nurse, just graduated, with a BSCN. I'm in the process of studying for my Boards in October, and starting to feel out the job market.

    I've been through these recessionary times before. It's a cycle, and it can't last. It never does, and people are getting older, and sicker, so they will need nurses very soon. After reading these posts, I might suggest that if you are looking, take the first thing that comes up. Take anything. Register with an agency. Agencies hire new grads. Network. Go to some places in person near your home. Move, if you have to.

    That's my plan. I want to work as a nurse. I need to work, because I am getting old, and I have loans. I will go wherever the job is, if that is the case. Canada, US, Australia.....wherever there is a job. Because the stupid thing is, after you have worked for a year to a year and a half, you aren't a "NEW GRAD" anymore.

    Good luck to all of you. It sucks that we are in this position. And it's insane, really, because there is a need for nurses, but no money....

    Maybe I am not being clear - I am way past ALL of your suggestions! I have done ALL of it! I have looked all over the state I live in and NOTHING - I have looked out of the state where I live, still no jobs for NEW GRAD RN'S - LTC facilities used to BEG for nurses - oh but not now - you know things are terrible when the LTC facilities do not want LVN's, wants more RN's and REQUIRES at least on year of RN experience. I have applied all over, sometimes just to test my theories that lead me to more investigation. The hospitals that do not have an "agenda". The HR Departments of the hospitals that are honest, are not playing the "visa" game will come right out and say that there is a "nursing glut" and/or "the market is flooded with New Grads and there is not a need for as many that are being educated. Then there are the hospitals that have an agenda.. oh those are the scarey ones. ". they falsely post jobs that they have no intent on filling to make it appear as though there is a nursing shortage (this is how they legally get away with continuing to import foreign nurses to the USA instead of developing the American workforce). They would rather have foreign nurses that are similar to indentured servants because the foreign nurses goal is to turn their short term visa - H1B, H1C, etc.. into a green card/permanent residency of the US, because of this they WON'T join nurses unions - they do not want to have any falling outs with their "sponsored" employer because that would put them at the end of the line for the green card. Many of these hospitals/groups,CEO's/HR VP's, write letters to their congressmen/senators PUSHING bills that EXPAND FOREIGN NURSE VISA's - and they are doing this CURRENTLY - Do you think for one second these hospitals will tell you they are doing this NO they won't - they won't hire youm - USA NEW GRADS -Furthermore, they cannot really verify the legitmacy of every "nurses" education from lets say, India, just as a random example - come on, do you really believe that??? The USA has a heck of a time detecting fraud in the USA how can they in/from India??? YEP do your research - all of the time I have had not working, and my hunger for the truth when I smell a rat- has lead me to some amazing factual, undeniable information directly from the sources themselves-
  12. Visit  joanna73} profile page
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    Hi. I can certainly understand your frustration. The whole nursing situation is outrageous. And I'm not in any way implying you haven't thought of, or attempted some of my suggestions. I was just trying to help, and be positive, in the face of all of this. Because I haven't even written my boards yet, and I refuse to get discouraged. Regardless of what the situation is out there. Obviously, we all have very different circumstances, and the market is competitive.

    However, I have always believed, that if you keep at it, you can achieve the goals you set. If you want to be a nurse, you will be a nurse. Someone will want you....eventually. Because the truth is, people ARE getting hired as nurses, even in this lousy economy. Just not nearly as many, unfortunately.

    I've been through many rough times, and I've been on my own since the age of 16. And one thing I've learned is simple: don't give up, go out and get what you want. If something isn't working in a certain way, try something new. And I am certain that there are ways in, which I will find. I'm not allowing this gloomy situation to overshadow what I have to offer. You shouldn't either.

    Best of luck!
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  13. Visit  SunshineRN79} profile page
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    Those of us who have found jobs are OVERWORKED AND UNDERPAID. The shortage is still out there! They are trying to cut staff so these facilities can save money. Its sick! It makes me wonder why the heck I got into this in the first place. We need to stop this because its not only the nurses suffering but the patients too. All for what? So the CEO's can make their millions?
  14. Visit  joanna73} profile page
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    I completely agree! During my consolidation, the unit was no longer replacing sick calls. At the end of the day, the nurses were in tears sometimes. And with the acuity of these patients, it isn't reasonable to expect nurses can do it all. And still, they are reluctant to hire, knowing full well that patient (and nurse) safety is compromised. I actually cried twice today over this whole situation (and I'm not a crier) because it makes me ill.

    If worst comes to worst, I could go overseas (ie Korea) to teach English, because I have a degree. However, my goal is to be a nurse, so the first job that comes my way, I'm taking (after the boards). What needs to happen, and I hope it does, is more nurses to stand up in government, and say "We aren't working like this. It has to change." Because the other issue is, your license is on the line as an RN, for screw ups that could have been avoided if there were proper staffing levels and happy nurses.

    I hope this situation improves in the next few months, for everyone's sake.


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