Is this cheating? - page 2

by antrara 2,545 Views | 23 Comments

My college is currently having a problem with academic integrity. My class was taking computerized tests, and a large number of students found that they could go to another computer lab after they finished the test and print it... Read More


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    I definitely agree that students who see the test before taking it have an unfair advantage, and that it is academic dishonesty. However, that isn't really what happened. After taking and submitting the test on a computer, the students in my program printed out the questions, answers, and explanations. It did not affect how they did on the test, because they had already submitted it. Also, they didn't share the test questions or answers with anyone outside the class that had already taken the test.
    Removing test materials without the instructor's consent at my university would be considered cheating. This is because some teachers use the same exams or the same pool of questions every term that they teach. People can, and do distribute old tests to friends who may take the class in the future...
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    Quote from antrara
    I definitely agree that students who see the test before taking it have an unfair advantage, and that it is academic dishonesty. However, that isn't really what happened. After taking and submitting the test on a computer, the students in my program printed out the questions, answers, and explanations. It did not affect how they did on the test, because they had already submitted it. Also, they didn't share the test questions or answers with anyone outside the class that had already taken the test.
    But you don't necessarily know that. There is a potential for these students with test questions and answers to share with students that are coming into the class.
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    Honestly if they needed to leave the room to do that then yeah it probably is. But one of my classes was like that as well. How did anyone find out about it anyways. People in my class use to take test together at the library... now thats cheating.
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    If they are printing the test, are they passing it to others? This sounds like dishonesty because the test will most probably get leaked out to others and may lead to cheating.
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    I don't buy it. There are PLENTY of resources, guides, manuals, textbooks and classes that will prep you for taking the NCLEX. Printing off an exam, complete with the answers is academic dishonesty. Who's to say that they won't provide these answers to next years class?

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    They printed out the test with the answers and explanations. It was because they wanted to compare the test to their notes and figure out what they got wrong, and they wanted to study from the test later on, like for the NCLEX.
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    I was just wondering about this!! I've been tempted to do the same (haven't yet. something just hasn't felt "right" about it). I keep everything, ESPECIALLY test material, to study and review over breaks before going into my next semester of nursing school. I would NEVER give the answers to another student (I'm extremely competitive and obsessed with doing better in my classes than everybody else, whether they're in my current semester or have yet to take the classes, lol..). This is very interesting and I'm glad I stumbled upon this post!
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    They printed out the test with the answers and explanations. It was because they wanted to compare the test to their notes and figure out what they got wrong, and they wanted to study from the test later on, like for the NCLEX.
    It doesn't matter why they did it they accessed test information.....without asking/permission. That is academic dishonesty and could be grounds for dismissal.
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    My husband includes a note on the syllabi for each of his classes that absolutely NO test forms, tests which have been graded and returned to students during class time so students may see their grades and questions they missed,
    may be removed from the classroom for ANY reason whatsoever. Copies of exams taken on computers in university computer centers may NOT be printed out. He has a line-up of cellphone storage areas using the chalk storage area on the blackboard, marked with each student's name. During exams, ALL phones are stored there. Failure to abide by the academic integrity policies may result in suspension from the class or school all the way to explusion from the class or from the university.

    He has made exceptions, but rarely. The student who was hit by the hit and run driver in mid-October and was out until January, took all her exams by email.

    If a student has a sick child or other relative, they may keep (and answer) their phones during tests.

    If a student wants to see his test or paper again, no problem at all. Catch him in his office, or make an appointment and it's a done deal.

    I usually remembered exactly which questions I missed. Still remember a few to this day!

    Unfortunately, the rampant disregard for honesty and intregrity on the part of so many students penalizes
    the majority of students -- the honest ones.
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    It is cheating.
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    I like that your husband has an absolute cell phone policy during exams. It's kind of a shame that its necessary, but clearly it is.

    My final year of nursing school, an instructor that many of us hadn't had before was going over class expectations and such and informed us that her policy USED to be that cell phones be shut off and stored in backpacks or purses. BUT, this was shortly after a string of school shootings and she had decided that from now on she WANTED phones left on, but silenced so that if we needed to call for help if some nutjob was on campus, she didn't want precious time wasted on powering up phones, LOL This was HUGE b/c she is VERY old school!


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