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Apr 06, 2005 09:48 AM

Better the College/Univ. Better the Job

by fvestar

Since there is a nursing shortage out there does anyone know of hospitals or offices being partial to hire based on where a new grad has earned her/his title from? Or, could the employer be so greatful to hire since there is a need to be fulfilled. Just curious.


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from rach_nc_03
Old Apr 06, 2005, 11:38 AM

Default mixed bag here
Originally Posted by fvestar
Since there is a nursing shortage out there does anyone know of hospitals or offices being partial to hire based on where a new grad has earned her/his title from? Or, could the employer be so greatful to hire since there is a need to be fulfilled. Just curious.
I'm in the triangle area of NC- lots of research universities and hospitals around here. I attend a small community college an hour north of here. Several of us applied to various floors and units at a very well-known and respected research hospital. A couple of us got great jobs in high-demand areas (PICU, Peds BMT, CTICU); however, a few others who interviewed just a few weeks later were told they couldn't interview, as all new grad positions had been filled, while new grads from other schools were getting interviews. One woman in my class, who already has a doctorate in another field, interviewed in the MICU in this same hospital. She was turned down for that job, but hired for MICU stepdown- the manager said she didn't like our school's program, so she wouldn't hire new grads into her ICU from it.

I can only speak for my geographic area, but I'll be interested to see what others think. I work with a lot of travellers from all over the US, and most say their first jobs were practically thrown into their laps, regardless of where they went to school. It would be really interesting to hear what managers have to say on this subject!
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No. 2
from jeepgirl
Old Apr 06, 2005, 02:11 PM

That's interesting. I'm trying to figure out right now where I want to go to school... it is between a state school and Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt will KILL me when it comes to family time and money... but it will be a degree from Vanderbilt! I always wonder if it will help me get a job... but then again, I don't know! I'd like to see what other people think about this... does a school really matter when it comes to getting a job?

I'm talking MSN/PH.D here. Not RN. I doubt that RN will matter that much... even though in more competitive positions ADN v. BSN may come into play.
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No. 3
from llg
Old Apr 06, 2005, 02:23 PM

It really does depend on the specifics. For example: how desparate is the hospital for nurses? (And any hospital so desparate as to not care about the quality of your education is a hospital I would not want to work for.)

As I have written in related threads, you also need to consider WHY one school has a better reputation than another. Is there really a difference in the quality of the education provided? I work in a community in which 2 of the nursing schools have an extremely low NCLEX pass rate. The new grads we hire from those schools really struggle with the complexity of our jobs and rarely make it through orientation. We do keep our eyes open for outstanding graduates of those programs, but we are less likely to hire someone from those schools than we are to hire someone from schools that produce a graduate more ready for professional practice.

In other words ... it IS important to go to a good school that is well-respected for providing a good quality education. However, it is rarely necessary to go to the most presitigeous, most expensive schools just for the "big name" on the diploma.

llg
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from Jetaime684
Old Apr 13, 2005, 03:44 AM

Default und
How do I find out if my school has a good program. Im going to the University of North Dakota and I wanna know how the nursing program compares to others in the area. Thanks
Originally Posted by llg
It really does depend on the specifics. For example: how desparate is the hospital for nurses? (And any hospital so desparate as to not care about the quality of your education is a hospital I would not want to work for.)

As I have written in related threads, you also need to consider WHY one school has a better reputation than another. Is there really a difference in the quality of the education provided? I work in a community in which 2 of the nursing schools have an extremely low NCLEX pass rate. The new grads we hire from those schools really struggle with the complexity of our jobs and rarely make it through orientation. We do keep our eyes open for outstanding graduates of those programs, but we are less likely to hire someone from those schools than we are to hire someone from schools that produce a graduate more ready for professional practice.

In other words ... it IS important to go to a good school that is well-respected for providing a good quality education. However, it is rarely necessary to go to the most presitigeous, most expensive schools just for the "big name" on the diploma.

llg
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No. 5
from jeepgirl
Old Apr 13, 2005, 03:21 PM

hello,

you should contact the state board of the state the nursing school is located in. also, you can contact the league of nursing. ask specifically about NCLEX pass rates of each school for both first time and second time testers.
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No. 6
from fvestar
Old Apr 13, 2005, 07:42 PM

Informative, Thanks..I didn't know that they actually gave out that information. I thought that they would prefer if you received pass rates by calling the college/university.

Originally Posted by jeepgirl
hello,

you should contact the state board of the state the nursing school is located in. also, you can contact the league of nursing. ask specifically about NCLEX pass rates of each school for both first time and second time testers.
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No. 7
from jeepgirl
Old Apr 13, 2005, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by fvestar
Informative, Thanks..I didn't know that they actually gave out that information. I thought that they would prefer if you received pass rates by calling the college/university.
my state BON actually publishes that info twice a year in the newsletter (you know, the one with the censured licenses?) that we receive. you might look on the website as well.
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No. 8
from NRSKarenRN
Old Apr 13, 2005, 10:36 PM
Updated Apr 13, 2005 at 10:44 PM by NRSKarenRN

Google: (name of state) + nursing programs NCLEX pass rate

North Dakota: http://www.ndbon.org/education/default_sub70.html


Check for " Board Approved Schhols of Nursing on SBON websites: are they fully accredited or on provisional status?
Provisional status often due to new program, poor test scores, not enough clinical sites, program quality issues etc.

North Dakota: BOARD APPROVED SCHOOLS OF NURSING

See Pa list:Board Approved Programs
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No. 9
from fvestar
Old Apr 14, 2005, 09:21 AM

Thanks, I'm going to look into that.
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