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Prevalence of Christians in the field of nursing - page 6

I will be making a career change, from the banking industry to nursing. Thought about it over the past year. In my industry, Christians are far and few between. I suppose much of this has to do... Read More

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    Being a Jew, I can't help but find your comments anti-Semitic -- thinly veiled and highly offensive.

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    I agree!
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    Oh no, it's not arrogant at all. In fact, it's laid out rather clearly in the Bible on what a person displays who is truly Christian. We are, actually, told to be judgmental of those who claim to be Christian but don't show it. Coincidentally, that was what Christ did quite often... Tell people who claimed to be religious and holy that they were actually spiritually dead and headed for death. See, it's not much different today. I invite you to read the Bible for yourself and you might be surprised...Christians are not based what you call yourself, but the status of your heart, which is plain to all people by the fruit in your life. And by 'fruit' I mean the 'fruit of the spirit' which is plainly described as love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. It's It's a daily struggle to live that way in this world, but God gives you the ability to rise above circumstances. Thanks for asking!
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    Oh no, it's not arrogant at all. In fact, it's laid out rather clearly in the Bible on what a person displays who is truly Christian. We are, actually, told to be judgmental of those who claim to be Christian but don't show it. Coincidentally, that was what Christ did quite often... Tell people who claimed to be religious and holy that they were actually spiritually dead and headed for death. See, it's not much different today. I invite you to read the Bible for yourself and you might be surprised...Christians are not based what you call yourself, but the status of your heart, which is plain to all people by the fruit in your life. And by 'fruit' I mean the 'fruit of the spirit' which is plainly described as love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. It's It's a daily struggle to live that way in this world, but God gives you the ability to rise above circumstances. Thanks for asking!
    What happened to "Judge not..."? Funny, I find what you post to be contrary to those fruits of the spirit and the teachings of Jesus.
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    Glad you brought that up! I was waiting for someone to say that... It's one of the most misused texts. Firstly, you, like almost all others, are not even quoting the entire text. In context it reads "Judge not, that you be not judged. For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, Let me take the speck out of your eye, when there is the log in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother's eye." As you can see, in context, the verse is referring to judging a person wherein the person judging is guilty of the same judgement--that person is then told to 'take the log out of his eye', or repent of his actions which may be worse than the person he's accusing, and then 'remove the speck', which is then to tell your brother to repent of his. Moreover, there are a vast array of other verses that support the judgment of brothers (meaning those in the faith). For example, John 7:24 'Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgement.' Indeed, there are multiple examples of this righteous judgement of believers by other believers in the text, and if you are truly interested I could go through them with you, but just for now realize that this common misconception of 'judge not' for all things is not accurate. I will add though, that the teachings of Jesus are to not judge those who don't claim to be Christians, for this is left to God...so you can apply 'judge not' to those circumstances, just don't use that commonly used text for support because that is not what it is saying. Just realize that it's all based in love for each other to help each other when we stumble. So, it actually is not contrary to the fruit, rather it embodies them. I invite you to read the Bible for yourself, it's really the only way for people to clarify some of these commonly held misbeliefs and misconceptions.
    Last edit by ArmyMedicRN on Jun 5, '13
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    I will be making a career change, from the banking industry to nursing. Thought about it over the past year. In my industry, Christians are far and few between. I suppose much of this has to do with the main focus being, money.

    Wondering about the prevalence of Christians in the nursing field? I know much of this has to do with what area of the country one works. Also, non-Chrisitans may not be looking out for Christians in the workforce. I know in my industry, I feel alone, to say the least.
    The best nurses I know are either agnostic or atheist. So, religion has nothing to do with it IMO. Actually, the best people I know are not religious. They live for the here and now, not the afterlife.
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    Don't worry sister, you have fellow believers around you where ever you go. Don't mind the cold comments on here by the mass of empty non-believers--I always am entertained by people who claim to be athiests or non-Christitans coming onto Christian threads or Christian websites (like the Christian Post) and spewing their hate and intolerance of Christians (they can only judge Christianity by its abuse). But, that's a price for living in this broken world, I guess. The best thing is just to remain steadfast in faith and be filled with the Spirit so to be an example with the fruit in your life. Hopefully, because of your light, people will come to Christ. Continue the faith and God bless!
    A lovely sentiment, however, coming to Christ is not an ideal part of nursing practice. It is about patients, not us. Just because someone may not be a Christian, doesn't mean they are an atheist. Further, nurses are no less ethical, kind, or learned because of their religious beliefs.

    Pray for the souls of the non-believers, the sort of believers,or the other-than Jesus believers in the privacy of your own home or church. Unless one works for a church or other religious organization, it has no place in the workplace, other than to see to the spiritual needs of our patients, which may be vastly different than our own. And that's OK.
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    Oh no, it's not arrogant at all. In fact, it's laid out rather clearly in the Bible on what a person displays who is truly Christian. We are, actually, told to be judgmental of those who claim to be Christian but don't show it. Coincidentally, that was what Christ did quite often... Tell people who claimed to be religious and holy that they were actually spiritually dead and headed for death. See, it's not much different today. I invite you to read the Bible for yourself and you might be surprised...Christians are not based what you call yourself, but the status of your heart, which is plain to all people by the fruit in your life. And by 'fruit' I mean the 'fruit of the spirit' which is plainly described as love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. It's It's a daily struggle to live that way in this world, but God gives you the ability to rise above circumstances. Thanks for asking!
    Been there, done that, good luck.
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    Oh no, it's not arrogant at all. In fact, it's laid out rather clearly in the Bible on what a person displays who is truly Christian. We are, actually, told to be judgmental of those who claim to be Christian but don't show it. Coincidentally, that was what Christ did quite often... Tell people who claimed to be religious and holy that they were actually spiritually dead and headed for death. See, it's not much different today. I invite you to read the Bible for yourself and you might be surprised...Christians are not based what you call yourself, but the status of your heart, which is plain to all people by the fruit in your life. And by 'fruit' I mean the 'fruit of the spirit' which is plainly described as love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. It's It's a daily struggle to live that way in this world, but God gives you the ability to rise above circumstances. Thanks for asking!
    The status of your heart. Typical American touchy feely fundamentalism.
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    A lovely sentiment, however, coming to Christ is not an ideal part of nursing practice. It is about patients, not us. Just because someone may not be a Christian, doesn't mean they are an atheist. Further, nurses are no less ethical, kind, or learned because of their religious beliefs.

    Pray for the souls of the non-believers, the sort of believers,or the other-than Jesus believers in the privacy of your own home or church. Unless one works for a church or other religious organization, it has no place in the workplace, other than to see to the spiritual needs of our patients, which may be vastly different than our own. And that's OK.
    Thank you!! Is it really that hard to be professional and not go to work to proselytize? Drives me bananas.
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    It is about patients, not us.
    In fact, I would go a step futher and say IT is not even about the patients, it's about Jesus Christ. Everything is and we are all working towards that end. Once that is realized, then all else falls into place.
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    In fact, I would go a step futher and say IT is not even about the patients, it's about Jesus Christ. Everything is and we are all working towards that end. Once that is realized, then all else falls into place.
    So do you initiate discussions on the topic with your patients at work that you determine are non-believers?
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    So do you initiate discussions on the topic with your patients at work that you determine are non-believers?
    If the patient initiates it, then I have no problem talking about it. Otherwise, I just do my business and march on.
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    I think we need to remember that religion is one of those polarizing subjects and this is the Nursing and Spirituality forum. Allnurses promotes the idea of lively debate. This means you are free to disagree with anyone on any type of subject matter as long as your criticism is constructive and polite....
    Our first priority is to the members that have come here because of the flame-free atmosphere we provide. There is a zero-tolerance policy here against personal attacks. We will not tolerate anyone insulting other's opinion nor name calling.
    Our call is to be supportive, not divisive. Because of this, discrimination, racial vilification and offensive generalizations targeting people of other races, religions and/or nationalities will not be tolerated.


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