Losing my religion

Ah, the lively religious debate. As nurses, we all take care of a multitude of patients, all with specific, and sometimes not so specific, emotional/spiritual needs. And unless one works within a religious entity, here's my take on why a nurse's own religion needs to stay in the nurse's personal life. Nurses Spirituality Article

Ah, the lively religious debate. As nurses, we all take care of a multitude of patients, all with specific, and sometimes not so specific, emotional/spiritual needs. And unless one works within a religious entity, here's my take on why a nurse's own religion needs to stay in the nurse's personal life.

1. Patients do not come to a facility seeking religious conversion. So a nurse should never take advantage of the fact that patients can be fragile, they may be in the bargaining portion of their grief process, and they do not give medals for saved souls.

2. Patients in general have their own set of religious values, beliefs, circumstances therefore, do not come into a facility to be converted into a nurse's own. If you are somehow "appalled" at someone's religious traditions, know your resources, and how to contact them to assist the patient.

3. If faced with a patient that is life or death, they have stressors that the nurse can empathize with, but we really have not a clue the unique circumstance that a patient is feeling. Act ethically as a nurse, not the time to push religious agendas.

4. We are required to meet the spiritual needs of a patient. Not ourselves.

5. Patient have the right to change their mind. When faced with a life and death there are and will be patients who decide to drop their religious restrictions. It is their right to do so. Please do not try and then convince them otherwise.

6. There are multitudes of people in the facility, the community, who know a heck of a lot more about one's particular religion than perhaps the nurse does. Use them.

7. It is interesting to know and understand someone else's religious beliefs. So take note for future reference. There are multitudes of religious and variations thereof in the world, so it can only help next time if a nurse has a general idea.

8. It is a huge grey area to participate in a religious act while someone's nurse. A nurse can pray for someone privately at home if you are so inclined.

9. There are certifications for nurses to become religiously affiliated should that be your forte.

10. Be respectful, but set limits to your participation, to your thought process in religion, and always have a plan "b".

If you are not comfortable with providing certain care due to your own belief system, then what? Always have a plan of action if this is the case. Remember, you may have a patient who is not religious at all. That requires just as much respect and support as the devoutly religious.

Compassion and empathy are not exclusive to any particular religion dogma, or no religion, nor will a nurse particularly "go to Hell" if they are providing ethical care to a patient. Patients have choices, and if a prudent nurse is acting in the best interest of what a patient wants for treatment at any particular point in time, all the better for it.

Sounds like a mind set of people from the old Soviet Union from where me and my family escaped. Sad to see this mind set taking place in this country. We should all be able to freely express our views. And I don't mean that we should be forcing our views on to our patients, but there is no wrong in sharing what you believe and why.

Many of my patients ask me why me and my family moved to this country to which I reply because of religious persecution of Christians in the former Soviet Union.

Are you implying that if my parents, who are practicing Buddhists, are under your care, they should have to honor your request of bringing them Jesus?

Even though I am a Christian, I believe in all paths lead to God. I will not share my religion with a patient unless they ask. I believe that the way I live my life and treat others is the greatest testimony to my religion. I will to myself pray for patients and will pray with patients if they ask. I try as best I can to accomodate any religion or lack thereof. I agree with everyone else...it is not about me. No matter where you came from, what you have done in life (good or bad) or what/who you believe in, once you are on my unit I will give you the best possible care I can.

Unfortunately, not all nurses have the same loving attitude like you.

I read the Bible; I also read Bart Ehrman's books. I know Christianity is really about.

I'm really concerned about my parents when they live in a snf or nursing home in the future.

Many replies from Christian nurses really scare me. My parents are serious Buddhists. They are at peace with their belief, and I hate anyone challenging them when their faith is the correct tool for them to obtain good death.

Now I realize that Christian nurses are just obnoxious hypocrites. They say that they would love and respect their patients. On the other hand, they worship a deity who would torture anyone for their mere disbelief regardless of their characters, and they ask their patients to worship Yahweh during their final moment of their lives.

In terms of professional etiquette, this is a serious insult to a person's dignity and intellectual autonomy. In terms of human value and dignity, this is a disgrace to humanity. No body with compassion can ask others to worship a tyrant dictating god like Yahweh.

I want to thank OP and other non-Christian nurses for standing up for non-Christian patients. Perhaps my appreciation is not enough since you have a lot of thankless work. Nursing needs more people like you. I hope that when my parents meet their demise, they would be under your care.

I'm not exactly sure how it works. I just know what I have read on the website.

Personally, I think it is wonderful, and if I ever get to do hospice (which is my ultimate goal), that is the company I want to work for.. one that is not ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ.

May I know where you are living? I definitely will never have my parents under your care.

What happens in your mind is in my your mind. Unless you can prove to me with clear evidence that Jesus existed and every single word of the Bible is true, you are implying that non Christians like me are so dumb that we cannot see that we would be at risk of being fried in a lake of fire.

This is beyond arrogance, and you ask me as a patient to respect your belief? Who are you to determine what my eternity will be? Don't you know that if you refuse to seek refugee in 3 gems your reincarnated life would result in you having retarded mind?

Yes, you may be surprised, but some sects of Buddhism have such dogmas. Thankfully, I don't believe that. There is no evidence for such things.

Specializes in Hospice, corrections, psychiatry, rehab, LTC.
While sharing unsolicited religious advice is not appropriate at work, doing so is not forcing anything!

All people speak from their own point of view. If a person of faith, they speak from that point of view. It is possible to share wisdom or insights from a religious perspective without getting 'churchy.'

I was unaware that there are apparently degrees of unwanted information, and it is apparently the nurse's decision as to whether something is forced.

I was unaware that there are apparently degrees of unwanted information, and it is apparently the nurse's decision as to whether something is forced.

Isn't it ironic that Christian nurses express their faith to patients without their invitation and then complain when non believers express their disapproval of Christianity? It is like they are going to suffocate if they cannot tell people how awesome Jesus is.

Specializes in Palliative, Onc, Med-Surg, Home Hospice.
Isn't it ironic that Christian nurses express their faith to patients without their invitation and then complain when non believers express their disapproval of Christianity? It is like they are going to suffocate if they cannot tell people how awesome Jesus is.

That's a might big chip you have on your shoulder. You claim to know about Christianity, but you know what, you don't know jack. Perhaps you should open your ears and mind and close your mouth.

And FTR: I am a pagan. A Goddess worshipping, tarot reading, spell casting, Pagan. And I have been on the receiving end of crappy Christians telling me I am hell bound, threatening my life and offering (most magnanimously) to pray for my soul. And not a one has been a nurse.

I've been critically ill, and not a single nurse talked to me about God or Christ. Not a single nurse prayed over me. If they prayed for me, it did me know harm. I got excellent care, even though they knew I am a Pagan. They provided me me with excellent care because they were good nurses. Not a single one told me how awesome Jesus is. And I live in the bible belt.

You are just as judgmental as you are claiming they are. You need to take off YOUR blinders. The attitude of yours is only going to hurt you in the long run.

That's a might big chip you have on your shoulder. You claim to know about Christianity, but you know what, you don't know jack. Perhaps you should open your ears and mind and close your mouth.

And FTR: I am a pagan. A Goddess worshipping, tarot reading, spell casting, Pagan. And I have been on the receiving end of crappy Christians telling me I am hell bound, threatening my life and offering (most magnanimously) to pray for my soul. And not a one has been a nurse.

I've been critically ill, and not a single nurse talked to me about God or Christ. Not a single nurse prayed over me. If they prayed for me, it did me know harm. I got excellent care, even though they knew I am a Pagan. They provided me me with excellent care because they were good nurses. Not a single one told me how awesome Jesus is. And I live in the bible belt.

You are just as judgmental as you are claiming they are. You need to take off YOUR blinders. The attitude of yours is only going to hurt you in the long run.

If it was in 2003, the year my family immigrated to this country, I might still have that innocence in me to believe Christians have good intention. After the period my family had to dealt with baptists, mormons, and jehovah witnesses every 2 or 3 weeks, I decided to read the Bible from cover to cover. Since then, I have not been able to looked at devout evangelical Christians the same.

Their action is biblically sound. I happen to be a Buddhist, and I take issue with people who attempt to proselytize me. I can deal with it, but I cannot subject my parents to it. They are even more serious practitioners in Buddhism than I am. Hence, I will not back down. I have the same attitude toward any religious person. My struggle or my family's tragedy is not your soapbox.

That's why I side with atheists even though I'm not one. I receive both carrot and stick from Christians; I understand how atheists feel. Their rationality may sometimes make them appear cold, but most kind Americans I have encountered are non believers. Two colleagues of mine are Christians, but they are not at all like Christians on this forum. In fact, I only know about their identity because I asked them how they dealt with their issues.

Consider yourself lucky. I hope your experience keeps expanding. For me, after seeing how Yahweh punished non believers in the Old Testament and threatened to burn them for eternity in the New Testament, I can no longer pretend to be a nice Vietnamese like I used to be.

Worship Jesus however you wish. However, asking me to accept Jesus and love a deity like Yahweh, Christians should not be surprised why I react the way I do.

Also, I am not a Christian. I don't need to follow what Jesus said about being judgmental. Christian nurses should feel free to follow their doctrine. That is their business. As long as they do their job correctly, I would greatly appreciate that, and I can be their friend. When they hint me to accept Jesus, they want to me agree with the blood atonement doctrine, which I consider dehumanizing, and I am entitled to criticize and judge them. It's simply a fair game.