Incompetent Supervisors - page 2

by GhostWindRider 5,364 Views | 23 Comments

I posted this article in another section and decided that it applies here as well. I'm with you on your decision. Medicine these days is questionable in it's execution of patient care and patient advocacy. I'm a former 18D,... Read More


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    I am glad the facility did not turn your license in to the State Board of Nursing. You may have gone on probation or worse yet had your license revoked/. Such is the case in Modesto CA. Do NOT I repeat DO NOT work at Memorial Hospital Associates or Sutter if you value your license. If you should rock the boat you will be turned into the state board. I did and was and was put on probation for no reason but jealousy. I paid a large fine and had to take many classes while unemployed. I had worked for this company 3 different times. The last time I was hired as a charge nurse. I am the only charge nurse that actually got off my dead end and helped the floor nurses. Someone who had worked there 6 months accused me of giving a placebo instead of Zofran. PLease, come on, are you for real???????
    German Baptist run the floor. So,oh well, I guess I'll go to hell because I told the manager that I believed she was being partial to them.
    I left the same day I was accused and haven't been in a hospital since them. That was in April 2004. I would not trust this company. I have traveled out of the area to work. Yes, it has been unpleasant but I have kept a job and my sanity. I refuse to let the State Board come between me and my love of work again. By the way, In CA if a facility turns you license into the state you are automatically guilty. According to my high price lawyer and after I gave him $7200.Plus to help me prove my innocence. Also when I examined the paper work my lawyer gave me all 25 pounds of it. I did not see any of my charting in the packets all 12 of them. I went through every page looking for my pain flow sheet that I had written on. Every one else had too for about 10 days, This is part of the chart but it was not in the chart. I wonder what happened to it??? HMMMMM. You decide.
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    So why were you fired?

    What was the exact reason for your termination?
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    This has nothing to do with protected classes. It has to do with defamation of character/libel/slander.

    Without union representation, you are on your own. It sounds like you are either in SLC, Vatican City, or Riyadh.

    Given your appealing military background, if you are willing to go public, you might get some support, and an attorney somewhere who would take your case. It you don't do anything, and conditions are as you say, patients will likely (continue to?) die at your former unit.
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    Quote from GhostWindRider
    You made the same leap to conclusions that the manager did. I wasn't complaining about staffing issues. In fact, I made it clear their staffing matrix was excellent. My issue was that the day shift charge nurses were not looking at post-surg patients coming to the floor and staffing the night shift accordingly. No monitor tech for a pt. on telemetry, that sort of thing. Staffing numbers were not the issue, it was day charge nurses not doing their job. Example: "We have X number of patients in beds. We have X number of nurses schedule tonight with 2 aids. Put so and so on call and send so and so home at 2300. HOWEVER, there would still be 2-3 patients in PACU or the ORs.
    I made the "leap" based on what you said. I even quoted you. I'm not saying that they were in any way justified in firing you regardless of whether you were informing your manager(s) about staffing numbers, staffing performance, or whatever. I'm not sure why you are getting so technical over whether the issue was staffing.

    It sounds to me like the unit has chronic staffing issues, and acute management problems.
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    Sorry about that, leap was the wrong word.
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    Could you call their HR and pretend to be hospital x checking your own reference? Not that it helps anything, but you could at least know what is being said rather than speculate?

    Agreed, church influence is disturbing.

    Could you travel for a bit and let things settle down? Wish we had more for you bud.

    Kudos
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    GhostWind- have you tried complaining to the EEOC? if I am not mistaken, they also deal with retaliation complaints. it seems you were retaliated against by questioning patient care safety. Have you tried using your vet benefits for legal representation -- an employment lawyer- wrongful dicharge/termination?

    I feel as you do with regard to civilian nursing. I was a civilan nurse working in an MTF and loved it because this crap did not go on with the military nursing personel. Civilian nursing could learn a boatload from the managment and leadership from military nursing!! Civilian Nursing management and leadership just can't seem to get the concept- you lead by example!!

    I would love to have had your experience. I attended a Lunch and learn in the MTF I worked at given by our CNO on the USAF Med evac process- It was the most awesome lecture complete with USAF pictures, I have ever had the pleasure of attending

    Good luck and Thank you for your service.
    CrufflerJJ and Cold Stethoscope like this.
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    I've been burned by a bad supervisor. I worked at a LTC while I had my LPN and was in school for my RN. I started applying for RN jobs and would never get a call back. One coworker suggested that I say to not contact my current job and if asked say i don't want them to know i was looking for another job. I started doing this and guess what? I got calls out my you-know-what! She had been giving me bad reviews BEFORE I even left! I still think that to this day she is screwing up chances I have but I am a new grad RN and need to list that RN experience. I actually ultimately did leave that facility because of her. She did exactly what you said about keeping the ____nurses and firing all the good nurses or driving them off. It was sad but you are not alone. It just stinks because of all your service and skills you cannot get a decent shot. I come from a military family and would love to go into military nursing after I get my BSN.
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    First off, thank you for your service. In my opinion, references are ridiculous. When we give personal references, we find friends that are willing to talk well about us. You can even go online and pay for someone to give you a reference. Just because a past supervisor talks bad about an employee doesn't necessarily mean the employee is bad. The supervisor could be trying to backstab. So the person calling for references isn't really getting an honest opinion on that person and should take that in to consideration. So it didn't work out between an employee and employer. That's fine, it happens. But trying to keep someone from eating or providing for their family is low. Unfortunately it sounds like you are getting blackballed. It sounds like you are one of the good nurses. You may have to move for work options. That sux that someone can have that kind of control. Those type of people put more time and work into backstabbing or getting out of doing work, than just doing the job.
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    yeah, i am betting on SLC.
    Quote from Cold Stethoscope
    This has nothing to do with protected classes. It has to do with defamation of character/libel/slander.

    Without union representation, you are on your own. It sounds like you are either in SLC, Vatican City, or Riyadh.

    Given your appealing military background, if you are willing to go public, you might get some support, and an attorney somewhere who would take your case. It you don't do anything, and conditions are as you say, patients will likely (continue to?) die at your former unit.


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