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Sep 08, 2008 11:45 AM

Paid sick-days issue

by herring_RN allnurses Guide

I think not having paid sick days results in people going to work sick. For healthcare employees this is not at all good.
Strickland the big winner in sick-days issue
Sunday, September 7, 2008 3:33 AM

When the 17-month, $1.8 million sick-days ballot issue fizzled this week, three things became clear:
Gov. Ted Strickland is looking more and more like a political bodybuilder.
Service Employees International Union District 1199 misjudged Strickland's opposition to the issue as well as the business community's vitriolic response….

…The campaign to provide Ohioans working at companies with at least 25 employees with seven mandatory, paid sick days annually began in April 2007. It fell apart Thursday when it became clear that State Issue 4 might pass at the polls, but it would be at great cost to the union and perhaps the entire state.
In the end, the SEIU got little or nothing in exchange for agreeing to drop the issue. Strickland promised to support a national paid sick-days law, but not necessarily the one pending in the U.S. Senate that is sponsored by Barack Obama and Sherrod Brown, among others….

http://www.dispatch.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/09/07/copy/SICK_ANALYSIS.ART_ART_09-07-08_A1_T6B8IEQ.html?type=rss&cat=&sid=101
An organization of working women are lobbying for paid sick days for many reasons:
http://www.9to5.org/sickdays/


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from lpnflorida
Old Sep 08, 2008, 12:23 PM

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I have paid sick days. I still end up going into work sick as while we have sick days, to have more than 3-4 incidences a year unless covered by FMLA is a big no no
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from dee78
Old Sep 08, 2008, 12:39 PM

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What makes companies competitive? What makes one person want to work for one company and not the next? There are 4 different healthsystems, with at least 8 hospitals within a 45 minute commute. Why would someone choose one over the other?

The benefits that are offered. PHOs, insurance, tuition reimbursement,etc Then there are the personal reasons as well.

If you don't like the benefits offered by an employer then you don't work for them. If your employer changes the benefits then you have the choice to change employers or deal with it. That isn't just for healthcare, that's any job out there.
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from ocankhe
Old Sep 08, 2008, 01:09 PM

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But what if all, or most employers decide not to give benefits? There is nothing guarantteed about having benefits other then a written contract.
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from snowfreeze
Old Sep 08, 2008, 03:28 PM

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The average person who is basically healthy will have 3 to 7 days/year when they are sick. Most of those are stress related not actual infectious related. If your work environment also adds to the sickness level with extra stress and exposure to infectious diseases then maybe you should either have a less stressful work environment with less tasks or be given a lot more sick days.
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from lpnflorida
Old Sep 08, 2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by snowfreeze View Post
The average person who is basically healthy will have 3 to 7 days/year when they are sick. Most of those are stress related not actual infectious related. If your work environment also adds to the sickness level with extra stress and exposure to infectious diseases then maybe you should either have a less stressful work environment with less tasks or be given a lot more sick days.
Ok, I vote for this
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Old Sep 17, 2008, 08:44 AM

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This initiative is off the ballot in Ohio. It has been deemed bad for a state that is losing business and jobs in this economy. Governor Strickland has decided to support a national sick day law.

This should be law in our nation- we need to start thinking differently about how we balance work and life in this country. We should look to equally productive European countries to bring dignity and respect back to the workforce.
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Old Sep 18, 2008, 07:04 PM

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I prefer to receive PTO which I can use for whatever purpose I might need...sick, personal day, vacation. I have worked two places that used this....one combined all paid time off, including holidays, and gave the employee a lump sum of PTO at the beginning of the fiscal year. The other place did PTO and paid holidays. The second place allocated so many PTO hours to accumulate per pay period. When I left both places I received payment for my unused PTO. Nice little sum in one case :-).

The reason I prefer PTO is that no employer I have ever encountered in 34+ years of working pays a departing employee for unused sick time. And it can be one heck of a battle to use sick time for other time off whenever one encounters a life crisis which is not covered by FMLA. So here is the good little employee who came to work even when sick who leaves the job after several years with weeks of paid time off that s/he never used and will not reap any benefit from receiving.

In any case paid time off, in whatever form, is a sadly neglected area for most Americans. We work more hours, with less benefits than many other industrialized nations. Somehow they manage to function without routinely working 50+ hours a week for a measely 1-2 weeks of vacation and perhaps 3-5 paid sick days a year and maybe no paid holidays. Makes a person go hmmm doesn't it?
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Old Sep 18, 2008, 07:24 PM

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It doesn't matter if one has paid sick days if using them gets one into trouble.
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from Jolie
Old Sep 18, 2008, 07:26 PM

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I realize that there are always exceptions, but in my experience, employers offer the most generous benefits they can afford. It is necessary to do so in order to be competitive.

If you desire paid sick time but work for an employer that does not currently fund it, I think you need to ask yourself what you are willing to give up in exchange for it. A cut in pay for hourly workers? A longer workweek for salaried employees? Fewer paid holidays or vacation days?

Employee benefits are expensive. Many employers simply can't afford to provide everything to everyone, and it isn't reasonable to expect someone else to pay.
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