Nurses outraged by plan to strip health professionals of overtime pay - page 2

Some nurses are outraged over a quiet move by the U.S. Department of Labor that could strip registered nurses and other health professionals nationwide from overtime pay. South Florida... Read More

  1. by   fergus51
    I can guarantee you I will NEVER work an OT shift without the benefit of OT pay. Thank you, union! If I worked somewhere that tried to do this, I would not be working there for long.
  2. by   LadyNASDAQ
    I work quite a bit of ot. If it weren't available, the incentive would not be there and this Nurse instead would work an extra shift elsewhere.

    When you work ot, you are getting a hospital out of a dangerous staffing ratio situation.
  3. by   roxannekkb
    The logic escapes me. I know this will affect quite a few professions and workers, but I am thinking in terms of nursing. If anyone thinks there's a nursing shortage now, what do they think removing overtime will due to alleviate it? Will they just run more PR ads about how great nursing is? Or try to convince nurses that they need to re-adopt the martyr position, and work without overtime pay. Or better yet, will they move to put nurses on salary instead of an hourly wage? Afterall, can't bills be paid with compassion?

    This is just so baffling. The latest attempt to bring more wealth to corporations and screw the employees.
  4. by   LadyNASDAQ
    It isn't logical, it's ridiculous. There are excellent, safe Nurses that can work ot and truly make for a safer situation. If this bill passes, there will be a nation-wide shortage that wil never be realized and why would anyone want to back stab a healthcare worker that might be trying to save even their family member's life?
  5. by   ucandoit
    Amen, LadyNASDAQ
  6. by   casper1
    I am often reguired to work overtime to maintain safe patient staff ratios at my hospital. If hospitals eliminate overtime it would be a grave mistake. Why would nurses agree to work for free. Don't give me the argument that we would be compenstaed with comp time, we all know how hard it is to get the vacation time we are entitled to now. I depend on overtime to help pay my daughter,s college tuition. I would refuse uncompensated overtime, instead I would take a per diem job and work extra hours there. I think this is what most nurses would do if denied overtime pay. The only way hospitals would be able to overcome this would be mandatory overtime. Something that most hospitals are reluctant to do. We are trying to encourage more people to enter nursing as a profession not drive them away.
  7. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Anyone care to defend GWB now?

  8. by   jnette
    Originally posted by mistersleepy
    Contact the White House TODAY!

    The White House Phone Numbers:

    COMMENTS: 202-456-1111
    SWITCHBOARD: 202-456-1414
    FAX: 202-456-2461
    TTY/TDD Phone Numbers (for the Hearing Impaired Only)

    202-456-6213 Comment Line
    202-456-2121 Visitors Office


    White House E-Mail Addresses:


    President George W. Bush: president@whitehouse.gov
    Vice President Richard Cheney: vice.president@whitehouse.gov
    Done !
    Please fwd. the above info to as many nurses as you can. !!!
  9. by   -jt
    < Why would nurses agree to work for free >

    Of course they wont agree to do it. So what? The hospitals arent worried about that at all. Its no problem for them that nurses wont volunteer for ot if they arent going to be paid ot. The hospital will just mandate the nurses to work it.

    Just think........ instead of hiring the amount of staff they need, the hospitals will just fill in the staffing gaps with more mandatory ot - AND NOT EVEN HAVE TO PAY A PREMIMUM of time & 1/2 for it either. Saves them money off our backs all around. I wonder how much bonus was given to the administrators who came up with this sweet plan to hold us hostage & then got it thru Congress so quietly.

    This information has been out there for months - put out in action alerts by the state nurses assocs. Who saw those? The state nurses assoc members & whoever they passed them on to. But lots of other staff nurses that this new law would affect dont know about it - because they dont get involved

    If we're sitting saying where did this come from - I never heard about it - we have only ourselves to blame.

    Some nurses still think we shouldnt be in politics & dont get involved in their professional associations. We NEED to be more involved in both or crap like this, created by non-nurses, will continue to rule over us to our own detriment.
  10. by   oramar
    Yeah, go -jt, go. I posted the first thread about this change months and months ago. The people who read the thread were disturbed by it but only about 5 people read it. I also complained to my congressmen about it way back then.
  11. by   CseMgr1
    It's a well-known fact that the Republicans have always taken care of big business...at the expense of the working man. Even though Clinton was as pure as the driven slush (and NONE of them are), people had JOBS. My Mother and Father (God rest their souls), voted the straight Democratic ticket their entire lives. My father told me when I became old enough to vote: "Ain't none of them (politicians) worth anything, but the Democrats will ALWAYS be in there working for the little man".

    How true. I didn't vote for this Bozo, who has sent K's of U.S. jobs overseas, has turned the Iraqi conflict into another Vietnam, and now is working to undermine the VERY core of the American workforce, by eliminating overtime pay.

    My sister and brother-in-law have the right idea: They are making a living, by making and selling birdhouses. As for me, I think I am going to look into independent contracting.

    And, as for Mr. Bush: Stay OUT of my home office!
  12. by   jnette
    Originally posted by -jt
    < Why would nurses agree to work for free >


    This information has been out there for months - put out in action alerts by the state nurses assocs. Who saw those? The state nurses assoc members & whoever they passed them on to. But lots of other staff nurses that this new law would affect dont know about it - because they dont get involved

    If we're sitting saying where did this come from - I never heard about it - we have only ourselves to blame.

    Some nurses still think we shouldnt be in politics & dont get involved in their professional associations. We NEED to be more involved in both or crap like this, created by non-nurses, will continue to rule over us to our own detriment.
    ITA, jt. I saw the thread you posted way back when and sent it on to colleagues. My coworkers were dumbfounded when I told them of it this week. They don't seem to watch much of ANY news (and especially no politics of any sort), so when I mention "getting involved" they look at me as if I were speaking
    a foreign language. How sad is that?
    How can we gripe if we don't ACT to change or influence these decisions? We HAVE the rights and the freedoms here, yet we somehow expect these issues to resolve themselves in our favor without lifting a finger or our voices?
  13. by   RN2007
    Personally, I think it is horrible that people are not paid overtime for extra hours they put in at work. However, keep in mind that this policy already exists for some PROFESSIONS such as architecture, because about 7 years ago when my husband had his own architectural practice in GA, our accountant informed us that licensed and unlicensed architects that had completed their degree in Architecture and who were working in their chosen field that they were "schooled for", were EXEMPT from getting overtime wages and must be paid salary for full time work. There were no exceptions here. At the time I was told that some other professions were the same way, but I do not know which ones are, and of course the laws may vary in different states. However, since my husband has worked in FL where we have lived for many years now, his employers have always paid him salary for full time work with no overtime paid because he is an exempt employee, but it is expected that he put in an extra 5 - 15 hours of overtime because "he is a professional".

    So, in light of that, I would say that nursing may be going in the same direction, especially since these hospitals are big business and are looking everywhere to cut every penny they can to stay open and/or to make the big $$$$. No, I do not think it is fair and hope it does not happen to nursing or any other field, but I doubt if the nursing shortage will get so much worse, because after all, I see on these bulletin boards all the time that most nurses do not go into the field for the money but rather for what nursing is all about. Personally, since reading these bulletin boards over the past several months and also because of my bad back, I have decided not to go into nursing and have chosen a different field in healthcare - either the Radiology Technology or Physical Therapy Assistant Program. I have also checked out their bulletin boards and talked with people in their fields and "shadowed them at work", and think those fields are more for me than putting up with what I see goes on in nursing field. So, all in all, my spending time here on these nursing boards has helped me tremendously, in that I did not go into the wrong field, ya know?

    Best wishes to all in nursing here... Sincerely, April

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