Controversial Michael Moore Flick 'Sicko' Will Compare U.S. Health Care with Cuba's - page 82

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  1. by   UM Review RN
    It's not unbelievable at all in my personal experience. The only thing that I find shocking is that Americans are so dead-set against universal healthcare. It's simply illogical that the average uninsured or underinsured citizen would fear having healthcare for all Americans.

    And by the way, when is the last time you had to have work done on your teeth? Even with insurance, I can't afford the bridgework and root canals that were prescribed for me 10 years ago.

    I'd take an increase in taxes over my $150/month premiums anytime, especially if I knew that when a medicine was ordered, I didn't have to refuse to fill the script because my insurance didn't cover it.

    I'd take a delay in treatment over no treatment at all anytime.

    And, BTW, I have had THREE patients just this past week alone who were admitted with rebounding HTN and chest pain because they couldn't afford their medications. Three. In one week. All because of the perfect storm of fixed incomes, budget cuts, and rising cost of living.

    It's only gonna get worse folks. I look at it this way: the fatcats in Washington are blowing our healthcare dollars in fighting the wrong war.
  2. by   PiPhi2004
    IMO, if MM wanted to show you how BAD socialized medicine was instead of how good it was, he could create just as much shock effect going that way too. I think its a grey area and of course the system is in need of reform. Personally I would be all for universal healthcare if resources would be utilized in a better fashion than now. For example, myself and a co-worker went through each patient on our 16 bed unit. Out of all patients, only one is what we would call 'viable.' ONE!! It sounds heartless, but quit spending billions of dollars on dead people! This is just my experience and I would love to hear how others see how healthcare dollars are wasted in other areas. Also, another documentary "the business of being born" shows how midwives are being pushed out and insurances wont cover them, but heck, how much cheaper is that?!?! Why should ALL women come to the hospital and get drugs they dont need when a midwife can give them adequate care at HOME? Spending money on this crap is rediculous.
  3. by   HM2VikingRN
    Quote from AngelfireRN
    I wondered if it was at all true. Seemed pretty fantastic. That's why I asked. It's 1 in the morning, all my synapses may not be firing. Thanks.
    Check his website. He has independent verifications posted about the patients he profiled.
  4. by   HM2VikingRN
    Preventive care is cheaper than cure...
  5. by   HM2VikingRN
    Quote from FionaSophia
    20 20 did a counter interview with michael moore, he refused to answer a lot of questions about the exaggerated and misleading aspects of his film. My eyes and ears are open but the bttom line is, I am glad to be an american and if I am going to be sick someplace, please let it be here.
    Its good as long as you can pay for your care....(Or have one of the ever shrinking jobs that offer good family care.)
  6. by   HM2VikingRN
    Quote from gregmcl
    bradley, i am almost certain it is way exaggerated. he came up with good stories about adequate healthcare recv'd in other countries and hardly a negative comment about people dying on lists while being treated in a country with socialized medicine. if i had the money, i would make a counter film to sicko and find tons of people who are receiving excellent healthcare in this country without the red tape, and people losing body parts to infection in other countries. i am almost certain his film is very exaggerated
    based on what???? the commonwealth fund actually has found that other countries have both better access to care and better health statistics overall from a population standpoint.


    at http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publ...?doc_id=482678

    and





    and what waiting times?

    Last edit by HM2VikingRN on Aug 25, '08
  7. by   Patti SW
    I guess from reading these posts McCain will be the next President of the United States. He is for Universal Healthcare. I always thought nurses were Democrats.
  8. by   HM2VikingRN
    The disaffected seem to write the most...
  9. by   CRNA2007
    People don't want universal health care because we don't want a 20% increase in taxes to pay for it. We don't want to pay for Nancy Pelosis's constituents to have sex change operations. We don't want to pay for health care for illegal aliens. Perhaps if you liberals started to have to foot the bill for these things your attitudes would change. I guarantee all of you want universal heath care but none of you want to pay for it. When everyone pays the additional $1000/month per person in your family that this entitilement will cost then I want to hear how great you think universal health care is. Liberals are long on lip service but short on proividing the capital to fund these grand tax schemes.
  10. by   herring_RN
  11. by   CRNA2007
    Does Michael Moore doctor in Cuba or the U.S.? Nuff said.





  12. by   HeyJude
    CRNA,
    Perhaps if you liberals started to have to foot the bill for these things your attitudes would change.
    all of you want universal heath care but none of you want to pay for it.
    and
    Liberals are long on lip service but short on proividing the capital to fund these grand tax schemes.
    I find these generalizations disturbing and, more importantly, inaccurate. You act as if you are the only person whose tax dollars would be used to support the healthcare of the entire country and you know that's not true. Everybody who pays taxes pays into it and everybody benefits from it. Nobody here has ever said that they aren't willing to pay for it, and your characterization of liberals wanting to spend everyone else's money does little to help find a solution. The last I checked the current conservative government has spent a lot of MY tax money to fund an unnecessary war that has cost money, lives, and the mental health of many.

    Instead of attacking everyone who doesn't agree with you, why not suggest a viable alternative?
  13. by   lamazeteacher
    Quote from blondy2061h
    It's over exaggerated and pretty inaccurate. An ER can't forcefully remove someone- EMTLA. I seriously wonder where Moore came up with these stories.
    Excuse me!!!

    Michael Moore's sources were thoroughly checked by several media networks and found to be absolutely accurate. Federal Law states that ED patients who are stableized may be discharged at will.

    There was a 20/20 report about that, as well as 60 minutes program validating the film's information. Write them for a copy of those programs, and see the truth. The above post is conjecture!

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