Concealed Carry...as a nurse? - page 18

With the current news over gun control and gun rights legislation being pushed through Congress as a result of the tragedies of Aurora, CO, Newtown, CT and the others like them, the thought of... Read More

  1. by   RunBabyRN
    Quote from armyicurn
    Sounds like moving to a different state might make your day...
    Believe me, my husband has mentioned it more than once! Hopefully this court ruling will rule in our favor and allow for those of us who choose to abide by the law to make our own choices about concealed carry.
  2. by   akulahawkRN
    Quote from RunBabyRun
    Sadly, this case is being reheard, so everything is on pause once again. Those of us who advocate for legal concealed carry in CA are on pins and needles waiting for the new ruling.
    Sonoma County Sheriff's Department | License to Carry a Concealed Weapon
    The 3 judge panel has not actually decided to re-hear the case, nor has the 9th Circuit decided to hear the case en banc. They're weighing 2 things: whether to allow the Attorney General to substitute as appellee and whether she has standing to request an en banc hearing, if they allow her to substitute. There is a stay in place, but that particular stay doesn't appear to also stay the case for purposes of allowing the circuit court to take the case en banc themselves. Responses are due on some motions within 21 days. There shouldn't be a long wait.

    In any event, this specific topic is best discussed on forums that have subject matter experts on this stuff, not here.
  3. by   Charlie Don't Surf
    I've had a CCW for 14 years and will carry as an RN (once I'm through school). Just because I know how to help save lives does not mean I have to lay my life down without a fight-

    I also vehemently respect others that choose not to carry, and see just as many people sleep soundly without a CCW as do with.
  4. by   rlgiv
    Im a conceal carrier. I carry everywhere I go. I work in an ER and my hospital has a no weapon policy but I carry in an ankle holster and have for years. We have security but they do not have weapons and we occasionally have sheriff deputies doing security. Nobody has ever seen it and I hope I never had to use it but if I do just like outside of the hospital it will only be in a situation where my life or one of my family or co workers lives are in danger.

    The best defense is situational awareness and conflict avoidance but if that doesnt work then as a last resort I will use it.
  5. by   MunoRN
    Quote from rlgiv
    Im a conceal carrier. I carry everywhere I go. I work in an ER and my hospital has a no weapon policy but I carry in an ankle holster and have for years. We have security but they do not have weapons and we occasionally have sheriff deputies doing security. Nobody has ever seen it and I hope I never had to use it but if I do just like outside of the hospital it will only be in a situation where my life or one of my family or co workers lives are in danger.

    The best defense is situational awareness and conflict avoidance but if that doesnt work then as a last resort I will use it.
    I often concealed carry as well, but never at work since statistically that concealed firearm is for more likely to be used for harm rather than to protect people from harm. It's the same reason why prison guards aren't armed. I think the best way to protect the right to concealed carry is to do so responsibly, concealed carry in a hospital only strengthens the argument for far more restrictive measures against carrying firearms.
  6. by   Havin' A Party!
    @Muno -- Please expand on the reasoning that cc in a hospital is far "more likely to be used for harm."

    Thank you.
  7. by   heron
    Quote from Havin' A Party!
    @Muno -- Please expand on the reasoning that cc in a hospital is far "more likely to be used for harm."

    Thank you.
    Your question is a good one and has been addressed in some depth in this thread. May I suggest you read it?
  8. by   rlgiv
    I doubt there are actually any statistics to back that up and I agree with the prison guards should not carry a firearm but in my situation, unlike if a prison guard carried a firearm. Nobody knows I have one.
    If my hospital would step up there security I wouldn't feel the need to do it myself.
  9. by   Havin' A Party!
    @heron -- Thanks for jumping in. Since it'd been four years since I was last on the forum, I did go back and re-read the entire thread, per your recommendation.

    Only found one previous comment by the poster I reached out to. That prior comment does not relate to the specific issue I inquired about.

    So I'm still not clear of the rationale underlying Muno's last post; and I'm just trying to fully understand her point of view on this.
  10. by   heron
    Quote from Havin' A Party!
    @heron -- Thanks for jumping in. Since it'd been four years since I was last on the forum, I did go back and re-read the entire thread, per your recommendation.

    Only found one previous comment by the poster I reached out to. That prior comment does not relate to the specific issue I inquired about.

    So I'm still not clear of the rationale underlying Muno's last post; and I'm just trying to fully understand her point of view on this.
    I actually wasn't necessarily thinking you'd find something from Muno specifically - although, as someone who uses firearms, he's frequently seen on these threads and is both moderate and very well informed. Just wanted to avoid re-covering old ground.

    My point was, there are a plethora of arguments both for and against concealed carry in a hospital. I'm personally against the idea because i'm skeptical of the idea that the possession of a cc credential renders a person competent to function safely in an active shooter situation or that the weapon is guaranteed secure from being misused by someone other than the owner.
  11. by   Flatline
    Quote from heron
    I actually wasn't necessarily thinking you'd find something from Muno specifically - although, as someone who uses firearms, he's frequently seen on these threads and is both moderate and very well informed. Just wanted to avoid re-covering old ground.

    My point was, there are a plethora of arguments both for and against concealed carry in a hospital. I'm personally against the idea because i'm skeptical of the idea that the possession of a cc credential renders a person competent to function safely in an active shooter situation or that the weapon is guaranteed secure from being misused by someone other than the owner.
    So you respond to a very specific question for clarity, a question that does not indicate a personal stance, by telling them to read the thread because it has been thoroughly addressed?

    When the poster responds that they reviewed the thread and did not find the answer to their specific question you respond vaguely that there are "...arguments both for and against..." which by the way does not answer the specific question that was given to a specific person.

    You then finish your response by providing your own opinion on the matter?

    Have you read the thread or just trying to troll people who you are guessing have differing opinions because they simply asked for clarification from a specific person?

    If I wasn't clear, I am asking for clarification.
  12. by   heron
    Havin' a party reported that s/he did not find an answer from a specific poster, not specific information. But, fair enough - s/he didn't find a post from Muno addressing that particular question.

    I actually posted in this thread four years ago, among others on the same subject. They all pretty much cover the same ground, so I can forgive myself for assuming that the relative safety of concealed carry in a hospital job setting was addressed.

    Meanwhile, why does it upset you so much that I have an opinion?
    Last edit by heron on Dec 1
  13. by   hppygr8ful
    I have a concealed carry permit though I hardly ever carry the thing. My first husband was a violent felon who I helped put in prison. When he was still out and we were separated I got the permit. Now that he is incarcerated I don't carry. The justice system is supposed to notify me if and when he gets out. I may start carrying again but I doubt I would carry at work.

    Hppy

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