(Who's really) Looking out for Veterans health? - page 3

rep filner is like the late sen. paul wellstone. a nonveteran who passionately advocates on behalf of veterans. as a a society we need to keep our promises to disabled veterans and their families.... Read More

  1. by   Shamira Aizza
    Quote from HM2Viking
    I know in MN that there is a movement to establish satellite VA clinics in the outstate areas.
    This is not new news; this administration has been doing this since 2000.

    This issue has been addressed properly by this administration, and politically by the opponents of this administration, hence the constant policy of criticism politics without valid alternatives and recognition of the real progress that has been made.
  2. by   blueheaven
    In the VA there are CBOCS which are community based outpatient clinics. Like some other posters have said, then with the vet requires hospital care, they may go to a community hospital (if they have insurance) or they will have to go to the nearest VA Hospital (if they don't). Only case where a non-insured vet can go to a community hospital is when it is a condition considered "life threatening" and believe me, as soon as they are "stabilized" they are turfed out of that hospital and transferred to a VA ASAP.
  3. by   jyoung1950
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    When I worked for the VA, we had many vets come up on the VA bus from the Rio Grande Valley to San Antonio to seek inpatient care. They were referred from the local clinic to be inpatients. The result was that they were literally hundreds of miles from home, often away from spouses with no means to come and be with them. (elderly and unable to drive or stay long distances from home, etc.)

    I always thought of that as completely cruel. THAT is where I formulated the idea that the VA hospital system was not in the best interests of vets. There is something wrong about requiring vets to be stranded from home in order to get care.

    THAT, and constantly having to tell my boss that I wasn't a bureaucrat, I was a patient advocate and that I wouldn't enforce arbitrary rules if it detracted from the care my patients deserved.

    Plus, I couldn't stand the staff attitude of: "What are you gonna do, fire me? I'm a federal employee!"

    I'm not a fan of Medicare, as you know. I consider it UnConstitutional. But, SINCE we DO have Medicare, just initiate a part V for vet and let it pick up the tab for our vets to seek care that includes the family dynamics that aid in recovery.

    THAT would be more compassionate care.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Alot of the problems at Walter Reed appeared to be on the order of maintenance and housekeeping. The general got fired because he couldn't fire those who weren't doing their jobs right. Why can't federal employees get fired?
  4. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from jyoung1950
    Alot of the problems at Walter Reed appeared to be on the order of maintenance and housekeeping. The general got fired because he couldn't fire those who weren't doing their jobs right. Why can't federal employees get fired?
    You've obviously never worked for the Federal gov't. That's not a putdown, just a frame of reference.

    Dealing with a political scapegoat is NOT the same thing as the day-in, day-out operation of the Federal gov't. It is very difficult to fire Federal employees. If it weren't, the party in power would have complete control of the process. The checks in the system are designed to prevent this. It just has unintended consequences.

    THAT is why we have the phrase, "Close enough for gov't work".

    The problems with Walter Reed were in long term housing for vets that had to be far away from home to seek care. Why not just let our vets get care, close to home? Problem solved.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  5. by   Shamira Aizza
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA

    The problems with Walter Reed were in long term housing for vets that had to be far away from home to seek care. Why not just let our vets get care, close to home? Problem solved.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    What? And allow the risk of our veterans receiving privatized care? lol.

    I do wonder what makes federal jobs so secure...
  6. by   jyoung1950
    A-ha!! Makes a little more sense to me. Thanks for the information. And no, I've never worked for the fed's.
  7. by   pickledpepperRN
    Walter Reed not the issue

    By Deborah Burger
    Posted April 9 2007

    There's another side to the ongoing scandal at Walter Reed Army Medical Center as well as Veterans Administration facilities. The Bush administration's attitude toward our wounded veterans parallels its behavior toward the rest of our healthcare system: neglect, inadequate funding, and privatization.

    It also illustrates a disturbing pattern of misplaced priorities, record spending on a disastrous war while our health care security for veterans and millions of other Americans is left behind.

    For those too horrified to read the details, here's a snapshot of the administration's greatest domestic disaster since Katrina....

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opi...a-news-opinion
  8. by   ProudGayRN
    Quote from spacenurse
    Walter Reed not the issue

    By Deborah Burger
    Posted April 9 2007

    There's another side to the ongoing scandal at Walter Reed Army Medical Center as well as Veterans Administration facilities. The Bush administration's attitude toward our wounded veterans parallels its behavior toward the rest of our healthcare system: neglect, inadequate funding, and privatization.

    It also illustrates a disturbing pattern of misplaced priorities, record spending on a disastrous war while our health care security for veterans and millions of other Americans is left behind.

    For those too horrified to read the details, here's a snapshot of the administration's greatest domestic disaster since Katrina....

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/opi...a-news-opinion
    Yes space nurse you are right, as opposed to the democrats love for the military - wanting to defund forces currently in Iraq so they dont have the proper equipment to defend themselves..yes, i agree 100% we all know who is looking out for the military, guys you love like John F Kerry who recently called the troops stupid idiots stuck in Iraq.

    Oh and by the way, I think people were uninsured the 8 years Bill Clinton was in office as well...explain please?

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